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Ron
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Post subject: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Wed 03 Aug 2011 22:46 |
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Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2011 15:29 Posts: 73
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I usually wear a photo ID that says Bail Agent, should I consider something for my recovery assistants?
Should I invest in Badges or just a laminated card with Bail Recovery Agent written on it?
I was in a situation recently where it was easy to ID me, but my security guy didn't have anything.
_________________ Ron Hartley (Retired)
_________________________________________________________ To avoid confusion and misunderstanding: I am fairly new in the bail bonds part of the legal system. I've been in the legal profession 25 years - Paralegal and Legal investigator.
I am not a BEA - just a Bondsman trying to improve and become a better bondsman. _________________________________________________________
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Wed 03 Aug 2011 23:07 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
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NYPD BLUE
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Thu 04 Aug 2011 08:58 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:07 Posts: 1033 Location: Miami, FL
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Two good threads Luvonda linked you too.. another good link to what to carry as far as weapons / shirts / etc.. is posted here = viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11842&start=10The search Button is your friend..
_________________ JEFF P. Limited Surety Agent (FL) - License # P_2O8124_ Private Investigator (FL) - License # C_27OOO33_ NABBI Member
"Surprise Sex is the Best Thing to Wake up to, UNLESS, You are in Jail... "
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Thu 04 Aug 2011 09:05 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
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Quote: The search Button is your friend.. Glad ya stuck around Jeff . . . . I was tired when I searched . . . think there are 45 pages when "IDs and Badges" are searched . . .
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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
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Gardul
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 11:41 |
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Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2011 16:33 Posts: 61 Location: Glendale, AZ
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Personally I do not see the need for a badge. An ID card would be enough. We aren't law enforcement. Just my opinion. Less chances of being mistaken as a LEO. Plus I think AZ doesn't allow us to wear badges anyway.
_________________ Jonathan Hack Bolt Security, Scotsdale AZ Unarmed Guard Future Recovery agent.
"We are a nation of laws, not of men." - John Adams
Life is full of lessons and one I know understand. While curiosity and the thirst of knowledge is a great thing; It can become a social burden at times. Not everyone can understand "why".. I try my best to stay patient with those who don't understand and will reject me.
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NYPD BLUE
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 12:17 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:07 Posts: 1033 Location: Miami, FL
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Here in Miami almost EVERY Bondsman that is going on a pick up is wearing a Badge..and may have their ID card on the rear portion of the leather badge holder. I have my ID Card in my wallet.. and when needed pull it out for Law Enforcement when and if they ask to see it which is very seldom..
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_________________ JEFF P. Limited Surety Agent (FL) - License # P_2O8124_ Private Investigator (FL) - License # C_27OOO33_ NABBI Member
"Surprise Sex is the Best Thing to Wake up to, UNLESS, You are in Jail... "
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B Williams
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 13:31 |
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Joined: Wed 20 Apr 2011 14:25 Posts: 1351
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Ron,
If I understand your question you are on one hand saying you wear something identifying you as a Bail Agent but want advice as to whether your fellow Bail Agents need a Badge, Laminated ID, etc?
If you wear something to identify yourself, why would you not make damn sure the very people there to help you have that same identification so maybe, just maybe, they won't be mistaken for a bad guy and get hurt....That is a no brainer man.
If I misunderstood, (I really hope I did) please correct me.
_________________ Bill Williams Bail Agent Eagle Bonding Services Asheville NC 28804 828-777-8667 Lic # NC10013561 Lic # TN 2033018
Never be haughty to the humble or humble to the haughty - Jefferson Davis
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Ron
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 14:58 |
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Joined: Thu 28 Jul 2011 15:29 Posts: 73
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That is my point exactly.
I've read through some posts and read on other sites that ID's and or badges are not needed. Some one even told me that as long as the bail agent is present the others don't need an ID.
I am of the opinion that all should have something and I am considering just a generic laminated card that says "Agent" at the top, has a picture of the traditional bail recovery badge" and "Bail Recovery" at the bottom. They are in my possession unless we are out in the field.
My main question is what is the best thing for them to wear? Badge or ID card of some sort.
_________________ Ron Hartley (Retired)
_________________________________________________________ To avoid confusion and misunderstanding: I am fairly new in the bail bonds part of the legal system. I've been in the legal profession 25 years - Paralegal and Legal investigator.
I am not a BEA - just a Bondsman trying to improve and become a better bondsman. _________________________________________________________
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 15:12 |
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Joined: Tue 12 Dec 2006 17:33 Posts: 1611 Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
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Ibelieve that this all depends on the state and local laws.....The state of Georgia has a set regulation but each county can (and do) tweek these. Standard ID cards have to have a picture, height, weight, and firearm permit number while some require drivers license number, date of birth, and still other counties require the card to include the signature of each bondsman that use you. You also have some LE and/or bondsmen that will only recognize/use recovery personnel that own and carry a "professional looking" badge with their ID. So there is no rule of thumb....atleast not in Georgia. Personally, I just go with the most detailed guideline and overkill the whole situation so that all of my bases are covered before an issue arises.
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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Post subject: Re: Wearing IDS... Cards? Badges? What is best? Posted: Fri 05 Aug 2011 15:26 |
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Joined: Thu 21 Jul 2011 09:55 Posts: 44 Location: Denver, Co
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Does anyone know what the guidelines for I.D.'s and Badge's in Colorado?
_________________ I See said the Blind man to the Deaf man. Red Cross instructor soon to be bail recovery agent Denver, Co Skype greyfoxisa
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." --Albert Einstein
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