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mark cavendish
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 13:16 |
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Joined: Fri 01 Sep 2006 05:07 Posts: 211 Location: Tucson, Arizona
FRN Agency ID #: 1343
Experience: More than 10 years
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Well I'm glad I have ole mindtracker to interpret what I say. "For the record that is what I ment." nothing to do with BEA work. There are a lot of rual are'as here where it take's Leo's a long while to get out to them. For example about three months ago I spent about 12 hrs. Doing traffic control outside of the town of Marana when a bridge washed out. "With amber lights flashing. This was a request of the Marana P.D. They called up the police aux. I am part of.
_________________ Mark C. Cavendish is a Certified Fugitive Recovery Agent, P.O.S.T. Certified by the State of Colorado and registered with the Arizona Department of Insurance. Member of the National Surety Investigators Network #MC806, The U.S. Professional Bail Bond Investigators Association, and a Life Member of The U.S. Coalition of Bail recovery Agents "Cobra" Control # 1058. Serveing Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico. phone 520.850.7490 24/7/365
"Sub Rosa"
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RCrew
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 14:34 |
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Joined: Fri 08 Oct 2004 15:48 Posts: 294 Location: California
FRN Agency ID #: 567
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As Mark has said, per Arizona Motor Vehicle Code, 28-297, the answer is no. Following is that section of the Code:
A person shall not drive or move a vehicle or equipment on a highway with a lamp or device on the vehicle that is capable of displaying a red or red and blue light or lens visible from directly in front of the center of the vehicle. Lights visible from the front of a vehicle shall be amber or white. This section does not apply to either of the following:
1. An authorized emergency vehicle or a vehicle on which a red or red and blue light or lens visible from the front is expressly authorized or required by this chapter.
2. A fire engine that is solely used for hobby or display purposes and that has been issued a historic vehicle license plate pursuant to section 28-2484 if either of the following applies:
(a) The lights are covered and are not activated while a person is transporting or driving the vehicle to or from a parade, authorized assemblage of historic vehicles or test.
(b) The lights are activated only in a parade, for an authorized assemblage of historic vehicles or for testing purposes.
C. Except as provided in subsection D or E of this section, flashing lights on motor vehicles are prohibited except either:
1. On authorized emergency vehicles, school buses or snow removal equipment.
2. As warning lights on disabled or parked vehicles.
3. On a vehicle as a means for indicating a right or left turn.
D. A vehicle may have lamps that may be used to warn the operators of other vehicles of the presence of a vehicular traffic hazard requiring the exercise of unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing. The vehicle may display these lamps as a warning in addition to any other warning signals required by this article. The lamps used to display the warning to the front shall be mounted at the same level and as widely spaced laterally as practicable and shall display simultaneously flashing white or amber lights or any shade of color between white and amber. The lamps used to display the warning to the rear shall be mounted at the same level and as widely spaced laterally as practicable and shall show simultaneously flashing amber or red lights or any shade of color between amber and red. These warning lights shall be visible from a distance of at least one thousand five hundred feet under normal atmospheric conditions at night.
_________________ Randall Crew Randall Crew & Associates 641-289-0136
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Green Beret
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 15:19 |
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Quote: Lights visible from the front of a vehicle shall be amber or white
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 16:31 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
FRN Agency ID #: 5
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Thank you.
However, that is in regard to traffic hazards. Nowhere does it state for Bounty hunters, pseudo-law enf., or wannabe cops can run lights for bounty hunting purposes, which is what this whole thread is supposed to be discussing.
Perhaps I should have phrased my question more specifically: Where in the Az vehicle motor code does it state that bounty hunters are authorized by state law to use non-factory outfitted lights, regardless of colour, on thier vehicles for the purpose of bounty hunting in a manner similar to that of post certified law enforcement officers ?
In the code you quoted I did not see that section that specifically addesses this authorization. Perhaps it is in another section ?
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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KARMA
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 17:19 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
FRN Agency ID #: 340
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Ruffin, I think that what he is saying is that it could be a plausible defense should he be reprimanded by LE . . . lots of gray areas - up to interpretation one could say. . NOT ALL LE's know ANYTHING about BEA work and depend on others to keep them advised, so the majority of the time LE most likely hasn't a clue (when it comes to our work) . Sometimes it is our best interest to educate . . . BUT then again . . . sometimes it is not
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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 18:36 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
FRN Agency ID #: 5
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I understand, Luvonda..I think you missed my satire.....You and some of the others are right..it can be fun messin with mentally challenged wannabe's..
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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RCrew
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 19:55 |
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Joined: Fri 08 Oct 2004 15:48 Posts: 294 Location: California
FRN Agency ID #: 567
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I just talked with a division chief from the Airizona Dept of Public Safety. He said that the Motor Vehicle Code absolutely prohibits the use of any type of emergency flashing lights except for the vehicles four way flashers that come installed on your vehicle. He also said this has been tested in court at least ten times that he knows about and the DPS interpretation of the law is considered standing law.
And the part of the law that Green Beret (sic) didn't quote was the part that said they could only be used as a traffic hazard warning.
Now I guess if anyone wants to try and test it again, they certainly have the right but why would you waste your time and money?!?
_________________ Randall Crew Randall Crew & Associates 641-289-0136
Last edited by RCrew on Mon 01 Jan 2007 21:29, edited 3 times in total.
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HoundDog
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 19:56 |
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 20:52 |
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Joined: Tue 24 May 2005 14:46 Posts: 3334 Location: Colorado
FRN Agency ID #: 324
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Dang, I get busy for one day and miss all the fun .
Hey Scott, if you continue to make posts in this manner, YOU GOTTA GET US THAT LITTLE MAN ROLLING ON THE FLOOR. Right, LuVonda?
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
Proud Member of the AB Reject Club
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DMARTZ
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 01 Jan 2007 22:31 |
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Joined: Thu 29 Jul 2004 20:23 Posts: 1632 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
FRN Agency ID #: 2570
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well its good to know that my Clap light on each side of my car and my Lava Lamp on top is Legal in my state. I had to do it Sorry
_________________ The Rose Investigations LLC Collection Agency Security & Investigations Consultant Retired Private Investigator & Bail Enforcement NAM VET 1969- 1975 US Army (RECON) Office 260-220-3877 1-888-631-5520 Fax 260-456-6062
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