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mh169
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Post subject: Question for Mr. Dorfman Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 10:06 |
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Mr. Dorfman,
I have read on here that you are one of the experts on the BEA field in the N.E area. I am looking to get started in fugitive recovery in MA. but I have no clue where to begin. Is it ok for me to contact you for advice on getting started?
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mh169
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 12:26 |
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do you know of any training locations in MA or NH for executive protection? which companies are looking for help? thanks a lot
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 14:03 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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mh169
You can call Mr. Dorfman directly and get the CORRECT information straight from the horses' mouth.
I understand your eagerness to get started, but you shouldn't always heed advice posted from total strangers, especially those whose credentials have not been verified. You need to learn how to look at a member's profile, see who and what they are, where they are, and what credentials they claim to possess. From there you call that particular States Licensing office and confirm whether or not the individual is legitimate.
Otherwise, you end up wasting a whole lot of time and money on wild goose chases, unprofessional schools, and being ripped off by so-called "experts".
Look at it this way: If you're a tourist in Central Park in NY City, and some hooded stranger hiding in the bushes whose features you can't make out suddenly started advising you to do this or that...would you follow thier advice ? Unquestioned ? I certainly hope not.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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mh169
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 14:08 |
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 14:11 |
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mh169
For example, your profile is blank as well. This will cause most professionals here to be extremely leary in helping you.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 14:42 |
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mh169
The first step for any state is checking if licensing requirements are in place. If so, then the state will have a list of state certified schools, instructors with all of thier aprropriate contact information. You should have simply paid a visit in person to your licensing department at your local county courthouse and obtained the correct, legal, and state authorized procedures for accomplishing your goals.
If your state does have mandatory licensing and training requirements (alot do not) then you would follow the steps outlined to you from the information obtained from the county courthouse.
If your state is unlicensed, then you would research which private schools offer you the best training you can buy for your targeted area of future expertise.
On this forum is a heading entitled "BEA FAQ's". In that article, you will find numerous schools that offer you all kinds of training.
1 of the best skills required for this job is how to answer your own questions. Solve your own problems.
Example: How do I find out what is required ? A: Ask the licensing dpt at my local court house.
Q: Which schools are recommended ? A: Type in the word "Schools" in search field and follow the path until question is answered.
Most of the time when out alone in the middle of an operation, you wont have someone else available to figure things out for you. So you have to possess the skills of instant assessment, instant intel interpretation, and instant ability to make command decisions quickly and decisively.
Last and foremost: Always check local state laws of where you are working before attempting any apprehension or launching any kind of operation. Just because something is legal in one place, doesn't make it legal in another.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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Steve_Hedrick
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 16:41 |
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Ruffin;
EXCELLENT words of advise!
_________________ Steve Hedrick
Hedrick & Associates INVESTIGATIVE GROUP
Nederland, TX
TX PI LIC #A-09665
(409) 284-1895
http://360.yahoo.com/ftachaser357
"For every DEFENDANT that fails to appear in Court, there is a VICTIM seeking Justice"
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Yak
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 17:06 |
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MH169,
Ruffin is right on the money. To be a pro .... learn from a real pro.
HADLEY DORFMAN
H & G INVESTIGATIONS 603-493-3400
Specializing in the New England area
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L.A.W.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 11 Oct 2006 18:43 |
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There is no licensing procedure for BEA work in Massachusetts. There are some who claim to do BEA work in MA but I have no clue who they work for as there are only two surety companies, one very active, one no longer active. I have the active one and have been with him for 20 plus years. Sorry, no openings.
To be registered in NH, you must successfully complete the course I wrote then post $300,000.00 liability insurance. I turned the instruction over to Hadley Dorfman effective 8/1/06. I will no longer put my name on certificates (personal reasons).
There you have it.
My advice is... follow a different vocation. You'll be better off in the long run.
_________________ Lance Allen Wilkinson
Recoveries by L.A.W.
Serving since 1984
“What is sought is found... what is overlooked escapes” (Oedipus Rex)
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Joined: Fri 30 Aug 2002 07:31 Posts: 1111 Location: St.Louis, MO
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And I can tell you the above post comes from a real professional!
_________________ After all is said and done, more is said than done.
-X- St. Louis, MO FRN#2 Member of The C.B.C
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