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speezack
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Post subject: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Tue 02 Jul 2019 18:15 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
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Tuesday, July 2, 2019
Well, the day has finally arrived… all at the same time…
July 1, 2019… mark it on your calendar… because it is a day that will long be remembered by an industry that has been on the downswing for many years.
It has been foretold by many… not believed by most… ignored by most and now… it has arrived… and all the disbelievers will have a very rude awakening.
“THE DEATH OF THE COMMERCIAL BAIL BONDS BUSINESS IN VIRGINIA”
I can attest to this because today, July 1st., 2019, I experienced the tolling of the bell firsthand… got slapped in the face by an industry that I have worked diligently in for almost 20 years.
Here’s the story, firsthand and unabridged.
In June of this year, I bonded a young man on a small bond… $1000… for reckless handling of a firearm and brandishing… years ago this bond would have been at least $5000 and probably $10,000 but years of liberal crying and blaming this industry for holding people on unreasonable bond has brought the totals down considerably… but that is yet another story not particularly involved here.
Anyway, several days ago, this defendant was in court on another charge (that’s important), was taken into custody and jailed without bond. At this time, no one can tell me the reason… not the court, the lawyer, the police… nothing shows up on the court website and no one at the records department at the jail seems to have a clue what is happening with this defendant???
Ok… so moving forward to my current situation… when a defendant is charged with an additional charge while out on bond, he basically violates the original bond. The main condition on a bond is to “not pick up any additional charges”… if you do… you have violated your original bond.
As a bondsman, we are very aware of additional charges and when this happens, we ordinarily will “come off the original bond”. This is just good business and is not personal.
The process for coming off a bond is to obtain a document from the court, a paper called a “bailpiece” or “surety capias”. Over the years, the process was basically no big deal… just part of the process and required nothing more than a court clerk signature and then a jailer’s signature.
July 1, 2019… a new set of laws related to bonding came about… one law now says the bondsman must pay a fee (10% or $50.) to obtain a bailpiece (Capias) in order to arrest a principle. This fee is payable unless the court has issued a capias on the principle and in that instance the fee is waived.
Here is the code: “If a bail bondsman surrenders his principal for any reason other than a summons from the court, the bondsman shall deposit with the clerk or magistrate the greater of 10% of the bond amount or $50.00, which shall be made at such time as the bondsman makes application for a capias.”
Well, this guy was arrested in court, went before the magistrate and is currently being held without bond. I went to the clerk’s office to obtain a bailpiece to come off the bond and was told I had to pay $100. Needless to say, I blew up.
I didn’t arrest this guy, I didn’t obtain a capias because the court locked him up… why should I have to pay a fee when the court locked him up? I was told since the court had not issued a capias and he was taken into custody in court that the fee was payable.
So, if I am now ordered to pay a fee whenever I want to exonerate a bond… that ends my career… nada… not gonna happen… I have just written my last bond.
Today, I retired. Thanks to all the great people that have dealt with me over the past 20 odd years. I have enjoyed all but the last 24 hours.
I am now retired; no more bonds and I am also giving up my Private Investigators license... none of that either. Thanks, but no thanks… no more money to DCJS.
I just got off the phone with my surety company informing them of my plans… they were not happy but understood. I’m done.
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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rosawalton
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Post subject: Re: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Sun 21 Jul 2019 13:18 |
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Joined: Sun 21 Jul 2019 13:10 Posts: 2 Location: United States
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speezack wrote: Tuesday, July 2, 2019
Well, the day has finally arrived… all at the same time…
July 1, 2019… mark it on your calendar… because it is a day that will long be remembered by an industry that has been on the downswing for many years.
It has been foretold by many… not believed by most… ignored by most and now… it has arrived… and all the disbelievers will have a very rude awakening.
“THE DEATH OF THE COMMERCIAL BAIL BONDS BUSINESS IN VIRGINIA”
I can attest to this because today, July 1st., 2019, I experienced the tolling of the bell firsthand… got slapped in the face by an industry that I have worked diligently in for almost 20 years.
Here’s the story, firsthand and unabridged.
In June of this year, I bonded a young man on a small bond… $1000… for reckless handling of a firearm and brandishing… years ago this bond would have been at least $5000 and probably $10,000 but years of liberal crying and blaming this industry for holding people on unreasonable bond has brought the totals down considerably… but that is yet another story not particularly involved here.
Anyway, several days ago, this defendant was in court on another charge (that’s important), was taken into custody and jailed without bond. At this time, no one can tell me the reason… not the court, the lawyer, the police… nothing shows up on the court website and no one at the records department at the jail seems to have a clue what is happening with this defendant???
Ok… so moving forward to my current situation… when a defendant is charged with an additional charge while out on bond, he basically violates the original bond. The main condition on a bond is to “not pick up any additional charges”… if you do… you have violated your original bond.
As a bondsman, we are very aware of additional charges and when this happens, we ordinarily will “come off the original bond”. This is just good business and is not personal.
The process for coming off a bond is to obtain a document from the court, a paper called a “bailpiece” or “surety capias”. Over the years, the process was basically no big deal… just part of the process and required nothing more than a court clerk signature and then a jailer’s signature.
July 1, 2019… a new set of laws related to bonding came about… one law now says the bondsman must pay a fee (10% or $50.) to obtain a bailpiece (Capias) in order to arrest a principle. This fee is payable unless the court has issued a capias on the principle and in that instance the fee is waived.
Here is the code: “If a bail bondsman surrenders his principal for any reason other than a summons from the court, the bondsman shall deposit with the clerk or magistrate the greater of 10% of the bond amount or $50.00, which shall be made at such time as the bondsman makes application for a capias.”
Well, this guy was arrested in court, went before the magistrate and is currently being held without bond. I went to the clerk’s office to obtain a bailpiece to come off the bond and was told I had to pay $100. Needless to say, I blew up.
I didn’t arrest this guy, I didn’t obtain a capias because the court locked him up… why should I have to pay a fee when the court locked him up? I was told since the court had not issued a capias and he was taken into custody in court that the fee was payable.
So, if I am now ordered to pay a fee whenever I want to exonerate a bond… that ends my career… nada… not gonna happen… I have just written my last bond.
Today, I retired. Thanks to all the great people that have dealt with me over the past 20 odd years. I have enjoyed all but the last 24 hours.
I am now retired; no more bonds and I am also giving up my Private Investigators license... none of that either. Thanks, but no thanks… no more money to DCJS.
I just got off the phone with my surety company informing them of my plans… they were not happy but understood. I’m done. Absolutely brilliant!! Reading and Thinking about you man!! Love you man!! Regards Rosa Walton
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Thanks Rosa Walton
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:04 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
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Well guess what??? Yep, spoke too soon... catch 22 here... can't retire... to much outstanding... got to exonerate whats still out there.. and so... if I want to get my BUF back... I guess I'll just keep writing... at least a small amount to keep the fires burning as they say... So... I paid my biannual fee to DCJS... ate some 'crow' and moved on... I'm exonerating about 30 cases every couple of days... slow process but I might get it done in a year or so??!!!! Just sent in a little over 1.5 million... gheeeezzzz.... who wrote all these things... mmmmm got no one to blame but me... oh, well....
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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Sasson
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Post subject: Re: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Tue 17 Sep 2019 05:45 |
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Joined: Mon 16 Sep 2019 04:59 Posts: 1
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1.5 million? How's that even possible?
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Snake Creek 00
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Post subject: Re: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Wed 18 Sep 2019 16:12 |
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Joined: Wed 18 Sep 2019 15:54 Posts: 1
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Good evening my name is Matthew and I'm responding from Indianapolis although I am a Floridian who has just recently moved here. I apologise if I am posting in the wrong thread but many of the others are quite outdated this is the only one I have seen so far that appears to be recent. I read you post and it has me worried..I hear there has been some changes in Indiana recently to the effect the bondsman aren't looking to hire apprehension agents. I haven't begun the licensing process as of yet I am still in the research faze of my interest in the field. I contacted several bondsman who explained to me that the state is changing to cash only...is this similar to what's going on in your state? Is there any hope in a cash only state for apprehension agents? Thank you for your time.
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: Virginia bail is now officially dead, read on... Posted: Thu 30 Jan 2020 06:56 |
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in memoriam |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
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Sasson wrote: 1.5 million? How's that even possible? these were bonds written over many years that have not been exonerated.... this is a relatively small amount... I would venture to say that California agents... at least some of them... were writing this amount a month if not more... this is not a large amount as far as bonds are concerned... ... I would advise anyone interested in this industry to find another job.... commercial bail bonds is going the way of the dodo bird... in short order.... believe me... take it from an old man in this industry... it's going south pretty quickly...
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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