Skip in Hudson, FL - Pasco County

I thank this hole is a load crap lets just see who can piss the furtherest I dont care who I piss off here on this but I thank some one just wants to be right about every thing and let a certain company corner the market on every thing and be the center of all attention. we are all here for the same thing to get the bad guy and go home.


NOW THAT IS MY OPINION!

I really do not understand what you were trying to say it does not make any sense. I sent you a PM asking if you wanted to get into a pissing contest or something because of your nonsense which has not contributed to this thread. If you have something to say to me say it to me. Obviously you have not followed the thread you just want to start an arguement. We were explaining our opinions on the Florida law and that must have gotten lost on you somehow and turned it into a personal attack...... why? I guess that I, according to you, am trying to corner some market by expressing my opinion and interpretation of Florida Law as it relates to this thread.

you was right there to say you had a guy there that could do it and when some one els said they could do it you have did every thing to shot him down any way dont you have a show or something to do.YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE OUTHER TEAM MEMBERS WITH YOU BUT YOU SHUNNED EVERY ONE ELS IT WAS NOT JUST YOU THAT LOST MONEY AND JOBS OVER THIS AND PUT AT RISK FOR GETING THE BODY AND GOING TO JAIL BUT YOU CHOSE TO BE THE MEDIA HOUND GEE SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER DOG CHAPMAN TO ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOW THATS JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

OH ALSO HAS THIS PERSON NOT BEEN TO FLA FOR YOU IN THE PAST OR IS ALL RIGHT FOR F.R.T.F. TO GO THERE BUT NO ONE ELS.

Yes in the past Barber would send Ruffin to Florida against my opinion on what Florida law says. Recently I had a Florida Bail Bondsman that we referred work to so it got completed that had no association with my company. Why? The guy that is with me was too far away from the job. I have done this many times in other areas of the country also but, how would you know my business since you are not even a part of it. Also I do not remember doing any program that relates to recovery work if you have seen me in one please let me know so I could find out for myself.

I get the message now, you wanted me to include you in some program that had nothing to do with recovery work. If you had paid any attention to the programs I was involved with it had to do with all of the women he married and conned and my association with being in business with him and being the one that brought him down. I also remember that when this all started most of you believed in what Barber was telling you and not what I had found out. It was the hard work from My wife and myself without any help from anyone else that put him away but, for some reason you wanted to be included. I suppose that you will be mad at me for not including you in on the documentary that will be done in the spring. Sorry but, it has nothing to do with recovery work it has to do with Barber and other cons in this country.

Richard, whatever Barber did to you or whatever you think that I have done I apologize for but, I have no idea where this hatred comes from I, have never done anything to you or anyone else that calls for this unless, you are one of the individuals I have put back in jail.

And please think before you type it is hard to follow what you are spewing out other than hatred.

Max, after carefully reading the posted laws from Florida according to what it says, you may go into Florida if you are looking for a skip from North Carolina since you are a Bail Bond Agent from that state.

P.S. Max did some guy from Pennsylvania ever call you about checking out a con man in your area? I gave him your name and number about a month ago.

I checked out some guy for him that turns out to be in your area. He is concerned that this guy is trying to scam and con a good friend of his and I told him I could not help any further since he lived in your area. The guy looks like he has things to hide from what I uncovered but, if the other guy did not contact you then I am not going to worry about it anymore.

Ok..Please allow me to clarify some points here:

Bob has his own company: www.frtf.net:
Thus, just like any other business it is his right and obligation to seek out contracts wherever possible. Now having said this, I too have my own company:

www.SSBEA.com

So I too seek out contracts wherever possible. This is all part of the free enterprise system.

Now, what many of you may not know is that Bob and I are friends, and I am actually a contractor to him in the event he has anything in my territory.

We have spent many many hours on the phone with each other discussing all manner of things: laws, training, tactics, networking, marketing ideas, etc etc. I have a great deal of respect for what Bob and other former FRTF contractors have gone through this past year.

I regret that this thread went in a negative direction. However, to answer the original question, Bob and I have been saying the same thing, only expressing it differently. The only point that I am making is that a free lance BEA, such as myself CAN effect a lawful apprehension in Fl. PROVIDED the out of state bondsman declares me as thier legal agent in the performance of my duties. That is what I was trying to explain the letter of appointment is for. It does legally state that I am the lawful agent of that bonding company in the state where the bond was written.

So in answer to Bob's question Was I or am I a legal Bail Bond Agent when I go into Fl ? The answer is yes.

I carry copies of all of my training certificates, and licenses as evidence that I am "qualified, licensed, and trained..." pursuant to Fl. law.

I hope this clears this up for any who were confused.

As for the old FRTF and its former leader, there are still alot of hard feelings out here due to lost contracts, jobs, broken promises, monies paid to frtf that still have not been refunded and past wages still owed to most of us who were signed up with him.

For these people (as well as myself-they still owe me $1,800.00), the issue lies with the Barber estate.

The old FRTF was listed as FRTF LLC of Delaware; The new FRTF is listed as FRTF INC of Arkansas. 2 totally different companies legally speaking. The current FRTF has no obligation to the old FRTF debts and liabilities.

So what needs to happen is any former or current FRTF contractors who have outstanding invoices with the old FRTF should probably come together and file a class action law suit against the Barber estate and or Joyce Barber.

I hope this helps to clear this matter up.

Take care and God Bless,

Ruffin.

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