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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA  Posted: Fri 22 May 2009 22:14 |
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MarshallSvc1 wrote: Pennsylvania Bail Laws
1) Applicable Statutes
7)Bail Agent's Arrest Authority
- A surety or bail agency may apply to the court for a bail piece.
- If the court is satisfied that a bail piece is required, it may issue a bail piece authorizing the surety or bail agency to apprehend and detain the defendant, and to bring the defendant before the bail authority without unnecessary delay. [ Pa. R. Crim. P. Rule 536]
PA: The surety upon receiving a bail piece from the court may apprehend the defendant wherever and whenever found (Rules of Crim. Proc. Ch 4016). A bondsman has a right to pursue and arrest the principal in another state. (Key#80 of Penn Digest 2d CA Pa 1971).
BAIL PIECE. - A certificate given by a judge or the clerk of the court, or other person authorized to keep the record, in which it is certified that A B, the bail, became bail, for C D, the defendant, in a certain sum, and in a particular case. It was the practice formerly, to write these certificates upon small pieces of parchment, in the following form: (See 3 Bl. Com. Appendix.)
BAIL PIECE REQUEST CHECKLIST
(Pa.R.Crim.P. 536)
1. Application signed by bondsman or agent on behalf of bonding company.
2. Statement of violation.
3. Check that alleged violation is a violation of bail conditions:
4. Clerk of Court or notary seal and signature.
5. Proposed order / bail piece attached, including name of any agent authorized to execute bail piece.
6. Attachments:
7. Copy of bail bond with Defendant’s signature
8. Copy of any additional bail conditions with Defendant’s signature
9. Copy of Surety Information page You are describing a "Summons To Bondsman" here in AR. It also stipulates the Date of said showcause but that is only issued upon FTA. I am assuming that what you are describing can be 'Requested" by the Bail Co. should they wish to be off the bond. ?
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AndyL
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Fri 22 May 2009 22:22 |
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If I am going out of my local area, I carry a certified copy of the bond, the notice of bond forfeiture and a copy of the warrant. The last two arent needed. However, some LEOs dont understand anything but a warrant. I dont know how many times Ive had them look at the certified with a puzzled look on their face. Show them the warrant and Im good to go. Shows how well they know the law.... 
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Fri 22 May 2009 22:24 |
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AndyL wrote: If I am going out of my local area, I carry a certified copy of the bond, the notice of bond forfeiture and a copy of the warrant. The last two arent needed. However, some LEOs dont understand anything but a warrant. I dont know how many times Ive had them look at the certified with a puzzled look on their face. Show them the warrant and Im good to go. Shows how well they know the law.... Ditto ~ Only I don't get a Certified Copy of the bond. I just carry my original file with me
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MarshallSvc
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Sat 23 May 2009 12:55 |
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Correct.
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Rob Graff
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Sat 23 May 2009 12:56 |
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Im gonna hold my tongue 
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Sat 23 May 2009 13:41 |
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Rob. when holds their tongue it causes them to sound "funny" (weird funny not haha funny) when they talk. Sooooo, We don't need a Bail Piece thingy here. We don''t like what you do . . . We can take your happy bootay back to 3 hots & a cot. 
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Kathy
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Sat 23 May 2009 14:41 |
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If it's a revoke we have to have a certified copy of the bond (some call them bail pieces). If it's an FTA and they have a bench warrant, all we need (in state) is our file. If we are going out of state, we always get a certified copy of the bond and a copy of the warrant from the court. That usually covers us along with all the other paperwork we have in the file.
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blue222
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Tue 26 May 2009 06:58 |
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i dont get it ur working for a local bail bond company and u dont know the paper work and another thing what kind of bondsmen would hire someone that dont know the paper ?
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Tue 26 May 2009 07:37 |
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Blue, Some Bondsmen hire people that don't know a hole in the head from a hole in the ground.....one of us not knowing the paperwork is the least of their worries. They hire "Tactical Teams", cowboys, Rambos, and worse.....many don't care about the tactics, experience, or training. They only worry about the bottom line. Those are the "fly by nights" because it will only take one "cowboy" to mess up and the lawsuit will be to much for these types of bondsmen to handle. On the other side of the coin, it takes time to gather the knowledge that the professionals in this industry have and use. There is not one of us that began with all the answers (welllll....., maybe a couple of the regulars, here  )....After all these years (2004) I still learn, on a daily basis. One of the biggest confusions is that we (states) are not all regulated and run the same. Each state has different terminologies, rules, laws, and regs which cause much confusion between FRA/BEA/BRA/Surety Agents. Most mistakes or misunderstanding are only "negative" if nothing is learned from them. He now knows that even those in a postion of "authority" don't always have the correct answers. We all know that some people allow titles, authority, status, rank, and/or position to run to their heads. There are also those that believe that a title gives them infinite knowledge in all subjects. I believe that this is where his question originated.....he knew the answer, was told differently, questioned his own knowledge, and posted the question on FRN. Time and a mentor will help with this.
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Post subject: Re: Need some Help in PA Posted: Tue 26 May 2009 08:37 |
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Blue222 wrote:Quote: i dont get it ur working for a local bail bond
company and u dont know the paper work and another thing what
kind of bondsmen would hire someone that dont know the paper ?
If you had read the entire post before responding,
the question was about whether a warrant was necessary to go
with the paperwork in PA. The person did state that they knew
what they needed and was asking did they also need a copy of the warrant.
Obviously someone gave him this "warrant" info, and he asked a
question, which I believe is a good thing rather than just go off and
take advice you're not sure of.
So, before you slam someone for asking a question, try reading the
entire thread first.
Additionally, I strongly suggest you go to the "Introduction" section
and post a proper intro. with a signature line. Oh, and see if you
can accomplish this in complete and proper sentences.
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