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 Post subject: Re: Opinion on pistols
 Post Posted: Fri 12 Dec 2008 05:32 
 
The best gun for you is one that feels comfortable to carry and shoot. I carry a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm. I liked the way it felt in my hand more than the Glock. Many rounds through it and have had no problems at all.


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I carry a Glockk 22 (.40) with Remington .40 S&W 165 grain Golden Saber BJHP

Guaranteed to do the job.

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There are several previous articles regarding this topic on this forum. You may find those comments educational/informative as well.

Some condsiderations to think about:

1) Discuss with your local attorney the hypothetical "what ifs" regarding your employing a loaded weapon in the "line of duty" so to speak. The old Boy Scout Motto..."Be prepared". In other words, don't put yourself and your client/company in an undefensible vicarious liability position.

2) Educate yourself to your local Leo's policies on weapons brandishing/usage. After all that is the barometer the Da, media, cj system etc will measure your actions against.

3) Get some sort of weapons certification....through your s.o., NRA, local shooting range, etc. Then practice at least once a month and have it documented. Create a file folder notating the date and time...a training log if you will, with the actual target.

4) Concealability, knock down power, comfort, "getting the job done", are of course all important factors. Here are some additional factors that should be considered:

a) Cost/replacement: If you are ever involved in a shooting, chances are your weapon will be confiscated by the local pd for various reasons. This is why I don't understand BEA's who go out and spend thousands of dollars on duty weapons knowing they may lose it down the road. You can find good quality used sidearms, Glocks, Rugers, Smith's, Beretta's, whatever for around $300-$400 each. This way, if your weapon is ever confiscated for whatever reason, you aren't out alot of money.

b) Bullets/grain loads: We all have to be cognizant of not just the calibre we use, but of the choices in bullets, grain loads, etc. For example, why would anyone carry a .44 magnum with a 240 grain jhp bullet ? We aren't hunting grizzly bears right ? That's way too much bullet for our purposes. You have to consider the potential for third party liabilities...i.e. your bullet passing through your target and into an innocent third party; passing through a wall, car, thin metal, etc.

c) Backdrops: We have to, in split second thinking, factor in the backdrop of our area. Shoot or don't shoot drills....what's behind my target ? A school ? Church ? Shopping mall ? Gas station ?

Basically the way my partner and I train our people down here, is NO SHOOTING. Too much liability. What we teach is to immediately take cover, retreat to a safe distance, set up a containment perimeter and of course call 911. If the fugitve gets away..then so be it..you'll catch him/her some other time.

Now I already know I have left myself wide open to a million disagreements and "what ifs". This is just a general policy. I don't want anyone in my team going to jail, getting injured or killed over a bail bond. Thier lives mean more to me than that. After all it's just money.

So please don't get caught up in the "Bounty Hunter" Hype....guns, "bat belts", wanna be uniforms, vehicles, etc....it's just a job about money....that's it. You are being paid to exonerate your client from the court ordered forfieture...don't lose sight of this fact.

1 last thought....Duty guns, used for BEA purposes, will get you into more trouble then they will ever get you out of......

These are just my own opinions.

Take care and God Bless.....:)

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I have been carrying a "6-shooter" and I am not totally happy with it. I have heard all the arguments that they are more reliable, but at the same time, I am looking for an automatic that carries more rounds, and is easier to reload.

I always have my little .32 that is loaded with alternating full metal and more lethal rounds. It's not so much the weapon, but what you carry in it. Most guns take different projectiles. What you use as the projectile is what matters.

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Thats absolutely correct!

Its not the size of the pistol, its how the projectile performs!


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MarshallSvc1 wrote:
Thats absolutely correct!Its not the size of the pistol, its how the projectile performs!


... is that sort of like... "it ain't the size of the wand... but the magic in the magician?" 8)

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Bill, I didn't know you did magic. :lol:

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ya got me.......... :lol:

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I am kind of partial to a Texas Arms double barrel Derringer in .45 Long Colt. Great vest gun, and will absolutely beat 4 Aces!

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Re: Ammo Capacity

We all know the anti gun people of this country have won another victory with the election of President-elect Obama and a total government in the control of the Democrats. The Clintons will push for re-instatement of thier adiminstration's weapons ban, the Brady Campaigners will push thier agenda, and the general "Anti gun nazis" of this country are also chomping at the bit, anxiously awaiting Jan 20th 2009.

How does all of this relate to ammo capacity ? Simple. The previous restrictions, among other things, included low-cap mags. Nothing over 10 rounds. Hi-cap mags had to be listed as "pre-ban" and almost tripled in price over night, until the next Republican took office and allowed the bans to die during his administration.

So the object lesson here, since history is indeed repeating itself, is to buy as many hi-cap mags while we still can afford to do so, as well as stockpiling ammo, reloading supplies, and related accessories. President-elect Obama may only last 4 yrs, then again we may have to suffer under him for 8 yrs, just like we did the Clintons..who knows...

So again, following the Old Boy Scout Motto...do indeed "Be Prepared"....

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