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Post subject: Politically Correct titles Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:12 |
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Joined: Wed 18 Jun 2008 10:24 Posts: 8 Location: Canada
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Hi everyone What are the PC titles that you use to describe the job e.g
1. Bail Enforcement. 2. Fugitive Recovery Services. 3. Fugitive Enforcemenet Services.
and then what do you call yourselves, are you
1. Bail Enforcement Agents/Officers/Specilists. 2. Fugitive Recovery Agents/Officers/Specilists. 3. Fugitive Enforcement Agents/Officers/Specilists.
No particular reason for wanting to know, just plain curiosity as I have seen a lot of different titles being used.
Thanks Jeff
_________________ Jeff King – Operations Manager State Protective Services
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Thu 19 Jun 2008 06:52 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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There are several articles on this forum addressing this topic.
However, I will reitereate a cliff noted synopsis of the existing articles:
1) Titles are often determined not only by local laws but by federal one's as well. You can find federal law's under the U.S. Code.
2) BEA or FRA are the standard for most of us...again though the verbage of either of these 2 violates some state laws.
3) Some prefer Surety Investigator as it seems to be legal in most states and has no law enforcement implications.
4) Most professionals stay away from self issued monikers such as "SAIC", "AGENT SO AND SO", "CAPT", "LT", "COMMANDER" ETC. These titles are military/Le in origin and people in these fields resent civilians who have done nothing to earn this rank attach to themselves simply to inflate thier own egos. the 1 exception here is if a person is retired Military then under UCMJ they are allowed to continue the usage of thier rank in civillian life.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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SnoWolf
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Fri 20 Jun 2008 07:57 |
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Joined: Tue 12 Dec 2006 17:33 Posts: 1611 Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
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In Georgia, it is law that states we use the title Bail Recovery Agent (whick makes us BRA's) but there is also written caselaw that states we can not use the wording of Agent, Officer, or Specialist (makes it confusing)..... I use OPERATIVE. Nothing written about that.
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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AWOBB
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Fri 20 Jun 2008 09:24 |
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Joined: Tue 22 Feb 2005 19:28 Posts: 1807 Location: Ohio & Nationwide
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In Ohio, the only thiing you can use is as follows:
Bail Agent Bail Bond Agent Private Investigator
That's it. You can't use the term Recovery Agent, Bounty Hunter, Fugitive Recovery Agent, Bail Enforcement Agent, etc... All these terms will get you arrested if you come a cross the wrong officer.
_________________ Steve Faircloth A Way Out Bail Bonds (220) 204-9733 Cell NSIN# SF0105 LIC. #704058
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DMARTZ
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Fri 20 Jun 2008 10:49 |
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Joined: Thu 29 Jul 2004 20:23 Posts: 1632 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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On your Indiana License it refers to you as a Recovery Agent.
_________________ The Rose Investigations LLC Collection Agency Security & Investigations Consultant Retired Private Investigator & Bail Enforcement NAM VET 1969- 1975 US Army (RECON) Office 260-220-3877 1-888-631-5520 Fax 260-456-6062
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Mdbtyhtr
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Sat 21 Jun 2008 14:53 |
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Joined: Thu 06 Jul 2006 14:22 Posts: 3982 Location: Maryland and Virginia
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Be very careful of titles, even earned ones have consequences. Generalisimo Superior Inquisitor of All the Land or just Scott if you please
_________________ R.E. "Scott" MacLean III
"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"
Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc. Chesapeake Bail Bonds 877-574-0500 301-392-1100 (fax) 301-392-1900 (Office)
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BondgirlCA
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Sat 21 Jun 2008 17:17 |
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Joined: Thu 23 Nov 2006 18:44 Posts: 1311 Location: San Ramon, CA
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Ha!! You kill me..
Here in CT, we stopped at a Starbucks after a capture, and one of the customers actually came up to us in line and said "I only thought you guys existed on TV"... I also once got "you're that Domino chick"..
I said no, we're real...
Welcome to reality...but in all seriousness, we go by Bail Enforcemt Agent...No title, no fancy stuff...just BEA.
_________________ Kate 650.863.8470
" Yeah, I see ya, you ding dong..."
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hunts24/7
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Post subject: Re: Politically Correct titles Posted: Sun 22 Jun 2008 08:52 |
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Joined: Tue 25 Mar 2008 20:48 Posts: 50 Location: Chatsworth,GA
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BondgirlCT wrote: Ha!! You kill me..
Here in CT, we stopped at a Starbucks after a capture, and one of the customers actually came up to us in line and said "I only thought you guys existed on TV"... I also once got "you're that Domino chick"..
I said no, we're real...
Welcome to reality...but in all seriousness, we go by Bail Enforcemt Agent...No title, no fancy stuff...just BEA. When i have told someone i am a Bail Recovery Agent they don't know what that is, So i try to tell them and they still don't understand so i tell them Bounty Hunter and i get oh so your like dogs son Leland it pisses me off
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Leland Painter Licensed GA Bail Recovery Agent Chatsworth, GA NSIN # LP0308
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