Bail Enforcement vs. Fugitive Recovery

My opinion is that there is a difference in Bail Enforcement and Fugitive Recovery, now I know they are the same job but I think there is a difference. Bail enforcement, to me, is dealing with actually enforcing the civil contract and terms of that contract; Fugitive Recovery is recovering a defendant that has Failed to Appear in court.

These are just my opinions on the matter just wanted to see what you fine people thought in regards to it.

Thanks

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Harley Watts
Huntsville, AL

"As You Seek, So Shall You Find."

You are correct, in my opinion.

Fugitive Recovery is self explanatory....i.e., recovering fugitive's.

Bail enforcement is a step up from cuffing and stuffing...this is where you perfect your skills at desktop exonerations, collections, etc..basically accomplishing 2 things: Bringing owed money into the client and mitigating the client's liability via court room pleadings, legal loopholes, etc. Learning how to make your state laws work in favour of your client instead of against him.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

GA's explaination of the terms fit this reasoning. The law here, states that we are "Bail Recovery" to cover both aspects. The same person can, now, Recovery Fugitves or Enforce Bail without being outside of the job description through a title. I like that the names have been broken down, now. Thanks.

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Thomas SnoWolf
FRN# 1999
GAPB 20120726
NSIS ST0707
http://www.rocksolidrg.com
"The hero is not the man that acts without fear,
He is the man that acts inspite of fear"

Splitting hairs...What ever we call ourselves, somewhere a legislator made it illegal!

I prefer Surety Investigator, it carries no connotation of law enforcement, does not refer to "Agent" (although under contract law, that best describes our position and relationship) does not state any national or state affiliation I.E.: US Fugitive Task Force or some others that I have seen, heard and read
and simply states who we are and what we do.

There are more and more restrictions on this business everyday, that come about as a result of the actions of some hard head who had to prove he had the "Authorit I" (go Cartman) to do what ever he wanted resulting in the ability for a politician to stay in the press another week at the expense of those that endeavor to practice the art of this profession within due bounds.

If you try to coach, mentor or lead these individuals and by doing so explain that what they want so desperately to believe will get them in trouble, you ar the "Know it all" and disparaged.

We all know that these individuals will not make it in this business long term and leave behind a mess that negatively effects the rest of us, while they move on to screw up somebody else's profession in denial and oblivious to the wake they left behind.

Scott

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R.E. "Scott" MacLean III

"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"

Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc.
Chesapeake Bail Bonds
877-574-0500
301-392-1100 (fax)
301-392-1900 (Office)

If your smart enough to make money at this you have to be a Bail Enforcement Agent. However if your cuffing a tweeker in some dark house somewhere and a couple of his pals show up you better be able to turn into a Bounty Hunter fast enough. Scott while you have respect nationwide, "Surety Investigator" makes it sound like I'm here to give you an estimate on getting some body work done. Yuck.

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Mark C. Cavendish is a Certified Fugitive Recovery Agent, P.O.S.T. Certified by the State of Colorado and registered with the Arizona Department of Insurance. Member of the National Surety Investigators Network #MC806, The U.S. Professional Bail Bond Investigators Association, and a Life Member of The U.S. Coalition of Bail recovery Agents "Cobra" Control # 1058. Serveing Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico.
phone 520.850.7490 24/7/365

"Sub Rosa"

Like Scott says . . . no matter what we call ourselves . . .

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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius

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Mark
where is the car you want me to look at? JC Autobody, "Your Automotive Dent-ist"

I couldn't resist. Bottom line it doesn't matter what we are called as long as it does not violate local statute.
We all must stay under the radar to keep making money and have a viable industry to do it in.

Scott

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R.E. "Scott" MacLean III

"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"

Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc.
Chesapeake Bail Bonds
877-574-0500
301-392-1100 (fax)
301-392-1900 (Office)

Thanks for all the good replies everyone, very well discussed. To summarize what everyone said, Bail Enforcement and Fugitive Recovery, the job is done by the same person but there is a difference in the two but it doesn't matter what the difference is because odds are that both of them will piss off a politician or police chief somewhere...and Mark wants Scott to give him a quote on auto repair.

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Harley Watts
Huntsville, AL

"As You Seek, So Shall You Find."

Someone mentioned legislated terminology I believe. In Washington State, the only two officially recognized terms are "Bail Bond Recovery Agent" and "Bail Enforcement Agent". I personally have always used those terms and have stayed away from "Fugitive Recovery" because there are times when we are not dealing with a fugitive, ie bail bond revoke situations in which there is no warrant because the defendant has not absconded and it is strictly a civil matter.

I have distanced myself from the "Bounty Hunter" term as well because of it's negative connotations, although of course everybody outside of the industry loves it.

As we progress as a professional industry, I think it is very important to be accurate about the terminology we use and the image we create with that terminology.

And that my Dear Caz . . . is why I am a "Professional Stalker" . . . what better describes us . . . stalking at its' finest . . .

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Do not consider anything for your interest which makes you break your word, quit your modesty, or inclines you to any practice which will not bear the light, or look the world in the face .... Marcus Antonius

I AM Some Folks "KARMA" and A MODERATOR @ FRN