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 Post subject: Inquiring about starting a part-time thing in Arizona
 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 06:45 
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Hi Folks,

I'm trying to determine if this would be an interesting part-time career in Arizona. I have a few people interested in doing this with me and I have experience with criminal transport and apprehension but I can't find any real hard info on operating in Arizona or if it's even feasible with out writing your own bonds? Can anyone point me in the right direction or even better if anyone knows anyone in Arizona that would be willing to let me buy them a coffee and pick their brain a bit? Anything other than the statutes would be great, already read them just not very 'real life' kind of info I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance for any information.


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 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 10:08 
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Just a couple of words of advice to get you started. (1) Fill out the complete profile. Without this, no one knows who they are talking to or giving info to. (2) Complete a signature line so that people have a way to contact you if they wish. (3) There is a FAQ section that would be a great start, for you http://www.fugitiverecovery.com/forum/v ... php?t=2145. There are answers for many of the questions you would probably like answered. Also, with a little research, it shows your desire and willingness to work in this field. That is what alot of the work in this industry is...research.

If you start with these few words, I believe you will be well on your way.

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 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 11:11 
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good answer snow. Could not have responded any better.
FutureFRAinAZ, once you have taken the time to read . . . you will find that there are a couple of individuals here from AZ.
Please correct your sig line and . . . happy reading.

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 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 15:34 
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Sorry about that. I've read the FAQ as well as alot of the 'Just inquiring' posts. I've gone a little ways into this profession before I've asked for information from people, nothing earns friends like asking questions that have been asked before right? I haven't filed for my LLC yet nor gotten insurance as of yet. So I guess I'm asking for some more specific info than normally asked for. I understand the general function of the job just need a little helping hand on Arizona specific info. Thanks again and sorry for not updating my profile I don't normally post on forums. :D

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 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 15:52 
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Dustin,

Welcome to the forum...:) and thank you for updating your profile.

To better assist you, perhaps you could post your specific question(s) ?

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 Post Posted: Sun 17 Feb 2008 16:03 
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Alrighty, since I haven't found any information posted, or specified for Arizona yet not exactly sure where to start. Is insurance suggested? what type and from who? Is it feasible to be a FRA without writing your own bonds in AZ? The statutes specify some information about recovery but from what I see I just contact the Bond Recovery Agent Team for AZ DOI (TODO Monday) submit my fingerprint cards and information, even without having a fugitive to go after, then I just submit form LBA something once I have someone to go after? Another question I had was do I just drop these folks off at Central Booking in Phoenix or what? lol. I think I may be getting ahead of myself but I need to know these details before I can be confident in marketing. If anyone knows an agent in Arizona they can refer, maybe to mentor me that would be great. I think they'd find my professionalism and intelligence an asset, and it would allow me to get familiar before I end up in Jail for not knowing something. Thanks again for your patience and understanding.

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Dustin, welcome to the forum. Ther are at least two individuals on this forum that work and reside in AZ.
Mark C. & Marvin B.
Perhaps they will weigh in here and advise you of all that you may need to know.
Til then happy reading and learning.

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1) Where exactly are you in Az ? This will determine the answer to some of your questions. Every jurisdiction is different...even in state.

2) To my knowledge, I have not heard of any insurance companies that will insure BEA company's. You may find some that will insure a PI firm, but not specifically a BEA company.

3) Az specific procedure's. I defer this question to Mark C. He is on this board and is better suited to answering them than myself.

4) New Business Start up: There is already a section on here regarding marketing. What I am about to suggest are ideas for your consideration regarding your safety/liability.

A) Develop a company/agency and have it incorporated. There are pros/cons to sole proprieterships, LLC's, and Inc.'s. Becoming an "S" corporation is not a big deal. It also offers the most protection in seperating personal assets from agency assets.

B) Rent a P.O.Box for your business address, vehicle registrations, business cards, bills, etc. This protects both you and your family from obvious potential personal endangerment. No one needs to know where your family lives.

C) Set up a business account for your client's to direct deposit thier payment's into. If you are on the road, and thier paycheck is sitting on your desk, it isn't doing you any good. When you set up your business account, sign up for the internet options so you can do real time online banking from the road. This way you will know immediately if your client's have paid you.

D) Taxes: When working a case, I have a small envelope paper clipped inside the case file that I put all the case reciepts into. Hotel's, fuel, oil, food, flashlights, batteries, ammo, laundry service's, etc. All of these items are tax deductible under various tax rules ( they change every year). By using this format, it makes it so much easier on my accountant to document what I spent and when and on what.

E) Vehicles: Keep your personal vehicles seperated from your work vehicles. You will need to get commercial insurance on a vehicle registered to your company. If you use your personal vehicle for bea work under standard, non-commercial, personal insurance and you have an accident or whatever, in most cases, you will negate that personal policy because you are using a personal vehicle in a commercial operation.

I hope some of these comments are beneficial to you. Take care and God Bless,

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Very helpful, I live in Phoenix Metro. When just starting out is it advisable to rent vehicles? Since most of the time the extra coverage purchased will cover everything? It's pretty darn cheap to rent a small car or pickup truck since now a days even FedEx will rent an enterprise rent a truck to do deliveries, for watching the fugitive. And that will cost alot less than commercial insurance since I won't be working much in the beginning it will help offset expenses.

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Renting vehicles is almost standard in our industry. Outside of the obvious benefits, the biggest advantage they offer is having a local tag. 1 of the biggest give-a-ways fugitives watch for are tags from the state they fled from.

If you're sitting in a crack nieghbourhood in New Orleans, La. watching a fugitive's apt. in a vehicle tagged with the same county/state that fugitive fled from 6-8, 12 mos ago.....

Just things to consider.

On some case's, and depending on case budget, it may even be cheaper to simply fly out to your target area, rent a local vehicle, take care of business, then fly back home. This is by far the most expedient method especially if your fugitive is in NCIC on nationwide extradition.

Remember, the key here is BOND EXONERATION...by whatever legal means.....don't get caught up in the hype of all the macho tv crap out there. Our industry is NOT ABOUT kicking doors in, abusing people, violating people's civil rights, raping, robbing, etc.

IT'S ABOUT MITIGATING OUR CLIENT'S LIABILITY....so you don't always have to "cuff n stuff" to accomplish that goal.

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