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tsuggs
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 14:28 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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Does anyone know of any state that gives out warrants to civilians? In CA bench warrants issued by a judge for a FTA is an electronic warrant in the CLETS or NCIC systems. This is not a paper warrant.
We have been able to get our local pd to print a copy of the warrant abstract from their computer if it is a FTA that we bailed from their jail.
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AndyL
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 14:39 |
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I can get paper copies if its one of our skips. We are afforded access to any court information on our liabilities.
Thats what I was wondering. Maybe I read the post wrong? Sounded like they just went to the courthouse to get "warrant information". If they were not hired by a bondsman, I can see big trouble brewing. I dont know how you would get the info in the first place?
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Steve_Hedrick
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 15:23 |
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Joined: Tue 25 Nov 2003 15:56 Posts: 290 Location: Nederland, TX
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I am also able to obtain copies of warrants/capias from my courthouse.
_________________ Steve Hedrick
Hedrick & Associates INVESTIGATIVE GROUP
Nederland, TX
TX PI LIC #A-09665
(409) 284-1895
http://360.yahoo.com/ftachaser357
"For every DEFENDANT that fails to appear in Court, there is a VICTIM seeking Justice"
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 15:39 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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She may be referring to her bail pieces or bondsman's process.
Here in Alabama, depending on the jurisdiction, we have to physically go to the courthouse and order a Certified BP (Bondsman's Process). This usually only takes a few hours typically, but it can take a few days. Some counties now charge for these...anywhere from $5-$10 dollars even though in our state bail laws it clearly states "there shall be no charge for a Bondsman's Process".
So when she wrote that they had to go pick up the papers, it didn't strike me as being odd.
For our apprehensions, we don't have to have anything with us but a certified copy of the BP.
However, I do carry a certified copy of the bond, the bond app, a pic, and the BP.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 15:47 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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FYI:
Yes, some jurisdictions do issue Bench Warrants to civilians to enforce.
This has been previously discussed on this forum before. However, I'll explain it again.
In financially strapped jurisdictions, especially smaller ones who can't afford specialized units, they do contract bounty hunters to do thier fta warrants. It can be fairly profitable for a skilled skiptracer.
Say a jurisdiction has 25-30k outstanding warrants, yet they can't afford the overtime and resources to hunt them down. So we as professional manhunters, approach the powers that be, make a sales pitch, get them to sign a city/county contract at x amount of dollars/person and there you go.
It has been done here previously by the Courtland, Alabama Police Dpt. in 2005.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 21:47 |
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Yes I do remember that discussion.
Its nice to know that there is some logical thinking out there. Unlike the PRC!
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AndyL
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 22:00 |
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Interesting. Thanks. The county I live in has a excessive amount of FTA warrants. Maybe I should point this out to the sheriff. Maybe get some side work. Thanks for the clarification as well.
Here we just have to have a certified copy of the bond, btw. I usually get a copy of the warrant, as some LEOs know nothing else, unfortunately. Saves some time, sometimes.
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 12 Feb 2007 22:20 |
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Joined: Tue 24 May 2005 14:46 Posts: 3334 Location: Colorado
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Our county no longer issues paper warrants, but if the person isn't in NCIC misdemeanor), and I am travelling out of state, I can request one and get it for $10.75. That is a minor cost for me to do my job. Some states ask for them because they simply can't comprehend our rights of apprehension just based on the bond. The only time we must show a certified copy of the bond in-state is on a revoke.
BEA's in CO aren't licensed, but must complete a 16 hour P.O.S.T. certified class and submit fingerprints to CBI for a state and FBI background check prior to working. The BA is required to contact CBI and pay a fee for the results, and have a copy of the BEA's course completion certificate on file prior to hiring a BEA. BEA's have to carry our course completion certificate along with an authorization from the BA before we can make an apprehension. For my regulars, I just get a blanket authorization saying that I can apprehend any of their skips for which they give me the file. This alleviates a lot of paperwork, although I have never been asked for either of these while making an apprehension or turning someone in at the jail. I also get copies of the bond, contracts, and any other info the BA has when working a file. It doesn't help to identify me, just gives me the info and leverage I need to find and apprehend someone.
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
Proud Member of the AB Reject Club
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 13 Feb 2007 14:05 |
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Kathy,
Is the CO law regarding BEAs new? I ask because, Americas favorite bounty hunting family has been in CO a couple of times helping on local skips. How can they do that?
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 13 Feb 2007 19:16 |
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Joined: Tue 24 May 2005 14:46 Posts: 3334 Location: Colorado
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It's from 1998, but since these persons lived here before, I guess they are using that to continue the work. Also, a person only has to be felony free for 15 years to be a BEA here .
The female member of the team tried to get her bond license back by claiming residency, but it didn't fly with the DOI. Sometimes too much publicity works against you and even a major network can't buy you everything .
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
Proud Member of the AB Reject Club
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