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hi guys my name is mykey carter what can i do in oregon to get my foot in the door i would love to become bea/fra i was thinking about www.usbda.net is that legit ? let me know ..

mykey carter

Mr. Carter,

1) There is a post here entitled "BEA FAQ" that may hold several answers to some of your questions. Also you can click on the "Law Directory" button and then click on a particular state and read about the laws for each state you want to know about.

2) Re: Oregon: If I am not mistaken, the last I read (this morning), Oregon is still a non-bounty hunting state. However, sometimes the information we have access too online is obsolete. So as a starting point I would check with your state's attorney general's office for their most recent ruling (if any) on the matter.

3) If commercial bounty hunting is still banned there, then your options would be to move to a "Bea Friendly" state such as California, Washington, or Idaho.

4) Then your process would be to follow that state's licensing requirements (if any).

5) Next, you would then need to attend some kind of legitimate BEA training facility for a basic understanding of this job, to equip yourself with basic skills, and to give yourself some kind of "marketability" to offer to prospective clients. There is a list of reputable schools also in the "BEA FAQ" section.

6) Following all of this, you would then need to purchase some basic equipment as allowed by your state's laws.

7) Then you should ask around and see who has a solid, positive, professional reputation as a BEA and seek his/her tutilage.

8 After completing your apprenticeship under an industry professional, then you wil be better able to decide if this is something you still wish to pursue as a career. If it is, then you enter the next phase of the BEA world which is establishing yourself as a viable business. That's another entirely different discussion.

These are just my opinions in an attempt to answer your question completely and thoroughly. Others, of course, will provide you with thier views and between all of the respected answers you get you will be well informed and then may make an intelligent decision on your next move.

Note: Just an explanation to help you: Knowing how to conduct research is a very critical, basic tool of our trade. This is a good place to develop, practice and hone those skills by attempting to answer your own questions before posting them by utilizing all of the information on this forum. For example, if you want to know about schools, you would then type in "BEA Schools" in the search function of this website; the same for any other topic such as "weapons"; "badges", etc.

It's like the old saying : "If you give a man a fish to eat, he only eats for that day; If you TEACH that man HOW to fish he eats for a lifetime." If after attempting to seek your own answers and still have difficulty most of us will be more than glad to help you out any way we can.

Take care and God Bless,

Ruffin.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

Mr. Carter,

I just checked the website you inquired about.

Some things that I immediately noticed:

1) Major misspellings. If they cannot even utilize a spell check before presenting thier website publicly, then this shows how little attention they pay to small, minor details.

2) The title of thier company: "U. S. Bail Department" . Since when did the United States create such an agency ? They did not. In alot of states it is against state law to have such verbage in your company's name.

3) They list an address in Long Island City, NY. Yet they are licensed in Conneticut ? N. Y has very stringent licensing requirements for BEA's. This tells me that they couldn't qualify for that license or they didn't want to pay the requisite fees and are operating illegally in the state of NY.

These are the kinds of things you learn to spot as you gain experience. I only looked at it for just a few minutes and noticed all of these items almost immediately. If you refer to the "BEA FAQ" section, there are a number of qualified schools listed there.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

thank you so much u guys have been tons of help and please call me mykey am a lil young to be called mr. lol

thanks agains

Ruffin, you are correct about Oregon. I heard quite a few years ago a bounty hunter driving though the state was arrested and convicted for having a cage in his vehicle while on his way to Washington State to do a recovery. I would not even try to do a recovery in that state but would have Law Enforcement do it for me.

Mykey,

Addressing a person with a formal title is proper manners until such time as that person gives you permission to address them informally. This of course is primarily done in the South.

I have actually had incidents in my travels, esp. up north, where people presumed it was appropriate to address me by my first name even though I had not given them permission to do so. On one such event a particular individual with whom I was at odds with was making a comment about something or another and in his flowing commentary he referred to my comment, then he paused and made the insincere gesture of asking me if I minded him referring to me by my first name, and without pausing and awaiting my response he continued his commentary. I then interruprted him, and answered him, stating that I did mind it very much as we did not know each other all that well and I resented his presumption.

Needless to say he was quite shocked, because he wasn't used to being talked to like that.

Why is this important to you ? Again, Research. This is part of being an excellent BEA. Knowing the cultures, customs, community standards, the overall way of life of the area you are hunting in.

1 other example: I was in Philadelphia, Pa. for a few months a few years back. I was taught to come to complete stops at stop signs. However, in major metropolitan cities, like NY, Atl. Chicago, etc. they don't want you stopping completely because that generates Grid Lock. FYI in Philly ? Being cited for Grid Lock is a far worse citation and far more expensive than being cited for running a stop sign. Least, that's what the cop told me when he pulled me over for stopping at a stop sign.....

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

My AO includes Oregon, but you have to be a WA state licensed BEA and the restrictions are very tight. WHOregon has outlawed commercial bail and therefore BEAs, but I can go get skips from WA, if I'm vewy, vewy caewful.

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Deen
360-606-4645
Office closed- thanks Obama

Winner do what losers refuse to do...

That's too funny. Getting stopped by LE for stopping at a stop sign . Our city and county could make a fortune in tickets if LE stopped everyone who did a "rolling stop" around here. I am one of the few that always makes a complete stop, uses my turn signals, stays within the speed limit, etc. Having everyone in LE know my vehicles is a blessing and a curse .

Whether I call someone by their first name, nickname, or Mr./Mrs./Ms. and their last name usually depends on the circumstances and how I meet or am introduced to them. I agree that it is mostly from upbringing and life experiences as to how we initially address someone. It is wonderful to see that "Southern" gentlemen still exist.

I got married at a very early age (15 the first time), and am with Mykey in that I felt I was much to young to be called Mrs. Anybody. I almost considered it an insult, especially when I was the same age or not much older than the person addressing me as such, even if they were doing it out of respect. Admittedly, that was 30+ years ago (now I'm "almost" telling my age) and using Mr./Mrs. was much more common than it is now.

Wrong or right, I have found that most people these days prefer to use first names unless there appears to be a respect or controversial issue involved. I can go from familiarity to formal in a heartbeat when necessary. I also know that when dealing with someone initially on a professional level, you should either ask or be asked to do this, whether I practice it or not. I tend to be somewhat informal in my dealings with people, and tend to use first names unless I feel it is innapropriate. Or in some instances, when I forget their first name but know their last . To me, the informality seems to build relationships at a faster level and I feel more "connection" with the person. When I call you Honey, Sweety, Darling, etc, you know you have made it to my real inner circle. If I insult anyone by being too familiar, please feel free to tell me and I will instantly correct this. It isn't an insult if you do or don't, I just need to know so I can be appropriate in your opinion.

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Kathy Blackshear
Blackshear Investigations
Blackshear Bail Bonds
Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc.
Walsenburg, CO

Proud Member of the AB Reject Club

Mr. Dean, We have "hunted" in Portland, OR, although we didn't find our skip there. LE only told us that they would not assist, but what we did to find and get the person was on us. Their only question was why I was driving and calling them on my cell, to which I responded that Hubby was driving, I was calling them with the pertinent information on where this person was supposed to be located, who we were, and what we were doing.

I have found that most states will work with you if you know and respect their laws. There are ways to work in virtually every state, even those known as "no hunt" states, if you approach them in the right way. I have not worked out of IL or KY, but have used local agents where required in other states, and feel comfortable in working in most states we have travelled to or through.

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Kathy Blackshear
Blackshear Investigations
Blackshear Bail Bonds
Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc.
Walsenburg, CO

Proud Member of the AB Reject Club