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docmike
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Mon 27 Feb 2012 22:48 |
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Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 04:28 Posts: 679 Location: San Jose
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Saddly there are many "older" folks still that think that way still.
_________________ Mike Norcal Bail Enforcement San Jose Ca. 360 237 1721 efax 408 402 2710 work cell DOI Bail Agent Lic 1844214 BSIS G1533544
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OrangeCountyBounty
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Tue 28 Feb 2012 10:55 |
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Joined: Fri 27 Mar 2009 21:26 Posts: 993 Location: Orange, CA
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Indeed. And I've got a couple guys just barely over 21 whom I'd go through the door with anytime!
_________________ Tom Duprey Founding member, NABBI (Nat'l Assoc. of Bail Bond Inv.) Ca. Bail Agent Lic#1845795 Owner/Operator, Thomas Duprey Bail Bonds Owner/Operator, Orange County Bounty (714) 727-4689
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Tue 28 Feb 2012 18:09 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
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docmike wrote: Saddly there are many "older" folks still that think that way still. very very true . . . arrogance is a very very ugly thing
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DSI
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012 05:38 |
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Joined: Fri 28 Mar 2008 04:55 Posts: 1269 Location: Maryland, Delaware, & Virginia
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I personally do not have an issue with eighteen years olds during bail enforcement recovery if properly trained. We as a nation do not seem to have a problem sending seventeen and eighteen years olds off to war and to fight and die for this country’s continued freedoms. If they commit a crime they are charged as an adult, yet they are not allowed to consume alcohol. In Texas you can become a fully sworn police officer at nineteen years old.
_________________ Domestic Security Investigations P.O. Box 4462 Rockville, MD 20849 Tel: 1-800-387-0787 Anti-Moral Majority Club President "Fear not the unknown, Fear the person who controls the unknown" Gene 7:14
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012 10:03 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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Training becomes the issue.
The military and LE do train their recruits. Many states do not have any training requirements such as the case is in CA.
Even with the "new" proposed law in CA, there is no training, only educational classes with very little to do with bail enforcement.
People being as lazy as they are will not normally go above and beyond trhe minimum requirements.
Yes there are some very mature 18 years. They are the exception rather than the norm. Heck, there are some very inmature 30 y/os running around, so any age limit could be just an arbitrary point.
However, in CA, an 18 can not own a handgun. If we are going to put together a team of agents, all should be able to legally own and possess all necessary gear to ensure their and their team members safety.
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marc_spector
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 29 Feb 2012 22:25 |
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Joined: Thu 21 Jul 2011 19:26 Posts: 109 Location: Minnesota
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I know a couple 18yo's I would be fine with working with. It's about the individual really. I don't carry a handgun on recovery so 18yo's and handguns isn't an issue with me. I have a permit, I have no problem with those who carry reasonably on a job, but I don't feel a constant need for a firearm. Shoot... sometimes I really don't feel the need for mace, but take it with more in case of 3rd party interference.
It's not 18yo's who have recognizable training or acceptable experience who I have a problem with. It's the 18yo who sees recovery as an opportunity to roll around with weapons aplenty plastered to their side and have the high hopes of seeing a lot of action.
_________________ (Freelance) Recovery Agent, MN.
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docmike
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 01 Mar 2012 17:14 |
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Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 04:28 Posts: 679 Location: San Jose
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I do agree I have met some 18yo that really have their sh*t together. Sadly they are not in the majority. I really have to agree with Tony on the firearm issue. being able to carry a gun when doing this job is the final " Im going home to mine". Sucks but true. We may do 100 arrests and never have to use any force at all but its that one time and you are dead. Personally my partner and i have made well over the hundred mark and have never had to use any force above minor hands on luck or skill? I will take luck everytime. Agian if it comes to a deadly force pissing match Im going home to those 2 beautiful little girls on my avitar.
_________________ Mike Norcal Bail Enforcement San Jose Ca. 360 237 1721 efax 408 402 2710 work cell DOI Bail Agent Lic 1844214 BSIS G1533544
Go hug a Tree
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OrangeCountyBounty
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 01 Mar 2012 18:44 |
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Joined: Fri 27 Mar 2009 21:26 Posts: 993 Location: Orange, CA
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Agree. I also think the age part of this topic grew serious wings! LOL. Anybody heard anything about the voting process? Any idea how long this sort of thing takes?
_________________ Tom Duprey Founding member, NABBI (Nat'l Assoc. of Bail Bond Inv.) Ca. Bail Agent Lic#1845795 Owner/Operator, Thomas Duprey Bail Bonds Owner/Operator, Orange County Bounty (714) 727-4689
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 01 Mar 2012 18:53 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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COMPLETE BILL HISTORY
BILL NUMBER : A.B. No. 2029 AUTHOR : Ammiano TOPIC : Bail Fugitive Recovery Persons Act.
TYPE OF BILL : Active Non-Urgency Non-Appropriations Majority Vote Required State-Mandated Local Program Fiscal Non-Tax Levy
BILL HISTORY 2012 Feb. 24 From printer. May be heard in committee March 25. Feb. 23 Read first time. To print.
The Public Safety Committee may hear the bill on the 25th which is odd as that is a Sunday. So, I am sure that will change.
It must pass PS committee and then go to full assembly. After that it goes to Senate. If it passes all those it goes to governor for his signature and take effect Jan. '13.(?)
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SheepDog562
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Fri 02 Mar 2012 15:26 |
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I’ll be glad when this passes. It will bring professionalism back to industry. I have come across some people who have no business in this business.
_________________ SheepDog562 All over the left coast. Anytime, anywhere.
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