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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow  Posted: Fri 03 Feb 2012 21:05 |
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Quote: Or you can separate the "US" from "IS" and have Us Is as in "Us Is after the bad guys." I think that may be ebonics.  Love it. It's perfect.
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AcaciaCon
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Sun 05 Feb 2012 14:19 |
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You might beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride downtown.
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DSI
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Mon 06 Feb 2012 07:04 |
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tsuggs wrote:  ....  ,  , you know its all bullsh%t anyway
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Mon 06 Feb 2012 15:58 |
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WOW,
With my CV and that badge I can go anywhere and BS just about everyone.
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Tue 07 Feb 2012 07:45 |
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Location: South Central Virginia
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Quote: It is permissible to use the State Emblem in the badge, HOWEVER the wording must NOT claim, imply or suggest that the individual with the badge is an Agent of the State. I may be a little dumb on this one... been following this thread with no comment since its writing back in 2010... however.... my take is simply... if you put the State Seal on 'your' badge... are you then not implying or suggesting that the "individual with the badge is an Agent of the State"????Certainly would appear that way to me... if you flashed it on me... my initial reaction would be that.... of course I can be fooled with a badge out of a 'cracker jack' box... Additional take on this entire thread... "If you put anything on your person, that tends to identify you with any Federal, State or even local law enforcement agency or affiliation of same... you are asking for trouble... and IMHO... you are doing it to attempt to fool the general public... " Again... IMHO... you put that wording or seal on yourself to imply legal attachment to some higher connection... period... Why not just put "Bail Enforcement" or "Fugitive Recovery" or "Bail Bondsman" and forget words like "Agent", "Officer"... or a picture of the state seal on the badge... here is a picture of my badge... which I don't even carry anymore, I keep it in a little box that has all my bullets ................................................ try to keep it away from my other stuff.... cause the Clorox will discolor it...   It simply says "Bail Bondsman" and my name "W.T. Marx"... and the seal is standard 'scale of justice'... that's all. I have another that has a picture of Donald Duck on it but my grandson like that one and he took it home....
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Tue 07 Feb 2012 11:07 |
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Howdy! Here in Colorado, we seem to have a good deal of latitude. We also have a pretty darn good relationship with local law enforcement. I've been out on apprehensions with my team, badges clearly displayed, and never had any reaction from an LEO. They know who, and what, we are. Here is one that I like, but isn't the one I wear when working with my team: Attachment:
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The one I wear when working with my team is this one: Attachment:
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Usually we keep them out of sight until we arrive at the location where apprehension is expected. Most of our LEOs will provide a civil assist when asked, although one jurisdiction herabouts seldom provides any help whatsoever. Thanks for Looking, Mel
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AcaciaCon
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Wed 08 Feb 2012 12:08 |
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Fri 10 Feb 2012 09:06 |
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DSI wrote: tsuggs wrote: .... , , you know its all bullsh%t anyway Wearing something like this is just asking to get noticed by the authorities. I really hate when companies sell products that could potentially put their customers in the slammer. If what was said about the lettering "U.S." being prohibited, then this would be illegal to wear in all 50 states! It may look cool, but it's not worth the risk in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I believe that everyone from bail enforcement to private investigators have the right to display a badge if there's any chance at all that it could expose them to less risk.
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Fri 10 Feb 2012 09:55 |
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Not that it really matters... but if someone flashes a badge... how many people do you know who would actually take the time to inspect it to see what it really says... a badge... is a badge... is a badge.... maybe LE would look and maybe you and me.... but not average Joe Blow our here.... "uh........ yeah... it's a badge... ok... you must be official... uh... ok... duuuhhhhh.... I'm impressed......... duuuhhhhh..... "  Same with all the "hoopla bling, bling" Swat stuff.... you show up decked out and again... average Joe Street guy... looks at you and sees............ "COP"..... that is the reason so many stories get told about "he said he was a cop".. or "he acted like a cop"... or.... "I thought he was a cop"..... maybe it's good, maybe not, but it does create appearance... no denying that... I'll just stick to my Disneyland, tourist, tennis shoes, baseball cap... you guys flash the badges, wear the guns and X-26's outside and in view... with the vests and "Agent" plastered all over it... .... it's ok... if you like it......... do it.............. but not me. To each his own.... you will not read a story about me being detained for impersonating anything other than.............. maybe a clown. I had more altercations and fights as a trucker than I have ever had in 12+ years in this business.... might have a big one tomorrow, but so far, no problems.... and yes, I have locked a few up... but of course, I have no TV show nor have I been offered one.
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"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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Post subject: Re: Badges and Demarcation - What does your state allow Posted: Sat 11 Feb 2012 12:58 |
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Missouri law requires photo identification be plainly visible during a recovery, investigation, interview, etc. Everyone thinks our agents are police officers because of that.
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