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No endorsement from us, USRB has passed out to much wrong information. I have been in this business going on 18 years and USRB is just another pop up company trying to milk that almighty dollar out of someone that doesn't know any better. I would also like to add that many of the members here were banned from USRB's forum because we were trying to promote the truth out of the half truth's that were being told to new people looking to get into this business.

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I think I will toss my 2 cents in on this subject....

As Recovery Supervisor for Surety Administrators Inc. part of my job is to interview, hire, assign cases and monitor those cases as well as liaison/network with Recovery Agents in almost all 50 states of this great country.

I have had the misfortune of dealing with some USRB "graduates" looking for Recovery Contracts and cases to work. It is unmistakably clear that this school is only interested in cashing checks and making money off of the people they enroll. Comments from multiple callers claiming that they are "licensed" in all 50 states to do recovery work, are authorized to serve arrest warrants and the list goes on, seems to show that somewhere somehow the school has misled these students. Again, these comments and other similar comments were not made by 1 or 2 individuals but from at least 10 to the best of my recollection. Each and every one of the callers were unprofessional (to say the least), seemingly undereducated both in general studies as well as bail law and bail enforcement. Not a single one of them obtained work or recovery contracts from me or Surety Administrators.

There are many other schools graduating the type of students this industry needs in order to survive and thrive. And these schools are taught and managed by real recovery professionals. My suggestion is to steer clear of USRB and find a school with reputable teachers and management.

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Don,
Thanks for stopping bye, For those of you new to the forums or to the industry Don handles hundreds of cases a year. Also these cases are some of the hardest case's to work, you have to know what you are doing to handle these assignments.

Be Safe Out There,

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Myself, Hadley, Greg, John & Stacy spent most of the morning at the LOB (Legislative Office Building) in Concord, NH to testify against "illegal aliens" and for allowing our law enforcement to arrest illegal aliens for criminal trespass. I only wish we were there to testify against USRB, a group I consider to be a scourge to the bail industry.

I have been in the field for close to 22 years with VERIFIABLE apprehensions in 27 states and seven from foreign soil... I long ago "made my bones". I have seen so many people and groups and schools come and go that I long ago lost count. I have never, in all those years, encountered such a rogue crew of so-called "trainers" as are imbedded with USRB. I am thoroughly convinced that USRB is at the front of the spear stabbing at bail enforcement and the root cause of so many of their "graduates" being arrested for ongoing criminal activity; let us not forget the many victims of the graduates from USRB who have suffered in the wake of USRB's so-called "training".

We have had calls from USRB's former students who told us they could work anywhere in the country. I told them they have been deliberately misled and if I were them I would file a complaint and demand their money back.

For the record... I do not recommend USRB to anyone and I have said just that when inquiries have been made.

To those who might be quick to jump on my politically incorrect manner of describing how I feel about USRB... kiss my part that goes over the fence last! I say it the way I see and it. Period.

So americasmosthated... add my comments to the mix. By the way... your screen name says it all.

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We can add whateva you like!!!. I know cause I was there first off unlike all of the people who are discussing in this chat board .Lets start with all the comments being made by the people who have schools on this board or training centers and HATE on other schools. They give the tools necessary to learn it is not the responsibilty of USRB to babysit those people who do not go over the material that is given over three days. tHEY ARE VERY INFORMATIVE IN THE MATERIAL THEY GIVE OUT, ARE YOU OR HAVE YOU BEEN IN THERE CLASSES. I ask you to use key words for looking up the USRB and see who there written by then judge.


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Ok... just to clarify things for me as I am somewhat confused.


Does the USRB actually tell people that their course automatically licenses them in every state or is this merely information from students who are using that class to try and get themselves jobs by saying they are now licensed because of this course (now we all know there are people who will take a class in something and totaly misunderstand what's being told to them)?

Is it americasmosthated's position that the USRB does NOT tell their students this and in fact actually teaches students the legal requiremetns of their individual states to obtain licensing? And that this knowledge of USRB courses comes from the fact that he has actually attended these courses?

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LET ME TRY TO MAKE THIS AS CLEARLY AS POSSIBLE. THEY TEACH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF EACH OF THE STATES WE WOULD GO INTO. IN NO WAY DO THEY SAY WE ARE LICENSED IN 50 STATES IMPOSSIBLE AND IF YOU READ.... ITS CLEARLY IN THE BOOKS WE SPEND 30 HOURS GOING OVER........ THERE COURSE ALSO OUTLINES ALL STATES AS WELL AS STATE LAWS ARE POSTED IN THERE SITE, NUMBER ONE. YOU AND ALL OTHER CAN CALL AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY JUST IN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THEM TALKING. THIS IS HIGHLY STRESSED TO US BECUASE MANY STUDENTS ARE INTERESTED IN GOING TO OTHER STATES. I WISH THAT MORE AGENTS WOULD COME HERE WHO HAVE GRADUATED INSTEAD OF ALL THE BS ORGANIZATIONS THAT THROW THERE HAT IN AS IF THEY KNEW WHAT THE COURSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SECONDLY YOU CANNOT BLAME THE APPLES THAT FALL FROM THE TREE AND BECOME ROTTEN, AND DO STUPID THINGS, I AM SURE IN ALL AGENCIES WE HAVE MANY. GOODNESS I WISH PEOPLE WOULD GET THERE FACTS TOGETHER


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americasmosthated... what is the ratio of USRB 'graduates' who have caused problems and been a cause for even tighter legislation in the wake of their criminal activities compared to other schools throughout the country?

Most of the wrongful instances have been (and continue to be) caused by USRB so-called graduates. Fault, too, lies with bail agencies who hire such unprofessional, ill-trained and inexperienced 'graduates' but without USRB the wrongful instances would have been and will result in a drastic decline.

USRB is not proactive to bail enforcement.

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So to clarify.

It is your position that the horror stories being told by people regarding their experience with some USRB students involve those students are basically the "bad apples" of the classes (I understand that these exists in every class regardless of subject matter... not to mention agencies).

It is also your position, being intimately familiar with USRB actual course subject matter because you have either taken the courses or are a member of the company, that they do NOT tell their students that once they "graduate" they are now licensed in either every or individual states and that they still have to comply with local regualtions (which are of course taught to the students).


Now it seems there are quite a bit of bad apples, this could of course be due to there being more students attending USRB courses (kind of like the more you drive, the higher percentage of chance you will be involved in an accident).

Such being the case do you think perhaps, USRB should institude some type of quality control?

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Damn! they must be pretty good if they can teach all 50 states rules and regulations in three days!!

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