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 Post Posted: Wed 02 Dec 2009 21:58 
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anyone see the new show tonight , its just keeps getting worse ...


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Only if you watch it......... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: new season of DOG
 Post Posted: Thu 03 Dec 2009 00:21 
 
I couldn't agree with you more. The level at which he'll go to violate people's rights gets worse every show. Searching through people's trash while it's still tucked away on their property, bursting into people's homes and acting like he has a shred of arrest power beyond that which was given to him by a bail bond agent is astounding!

I get quite embarrassed watching that show, but man if it isn't funny to watch. Watch out for those semi-auto mace rifles. lol I get a kick out of watching those guys practically holding up signs saying "Look at me, I'm a bounty hunter". It's fun TV but not much else.


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Yea. High speed pursuit resulting in vehicle accident .... busting several windows out of campers .... I have always said (Those of you that have been around here for a while have heard this) "I would never condone taking a persons right to earn a living, under normal circumstances, but at some point someone has to take a stand with DOG. He is out of control and getting worse with his actions. The worst is that Beth seems to be some sort of instigator or ring leader in much of it.”

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Yea. High speed pursuit resulting in vehicle accident .... busting several windows out of campers .... I have always said (Those of you that have been around here for a while have heard this) "I would never condone taking a persons right to earn a living, under normal circumstances, but at some point someone has to take a stand with DOG. He is out of control and getting worse with his actions. The worst is that Beth seems to be some sort of instigator or ring leader in much of it.”


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: new season of DOG
 Post Posted: Thu 03 Dec 2009 17:32 
 
Yeah I agree, dog acts like it's the wild west again. I was really disappointed the way they just busted in to that lady's house with out there permission and I will not even comment on the car chase.... Just plain stupidity..

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Applicable Statutes.
*** Hawaii’s statutes currently do not contain comprehensive regulations for bail bond recovery or bail enforcement agents, though some provisions exist regarding forfeiture. ***

HRS § 804-51 HAWAII REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED DIVISION 5. CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS TITLE 38. PROCEDURAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS CHAPTER 804. Bail; Bond to Keep the Peace PART III. FORFEITURE.

HI ST §§ 804- 14, 41.

Licensing Requirements for Agents.
HAWAII REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED DIVISION 2. BUSINESS TITLE 25. PROFESSIONS AND OCCUPATIONS CHAPTER 445. County Licenses PART VIII. SOLICITORS Surety, Bail Bond -- Repealed
(The statutes do not currently contain any licensing provisions for bail enforcement agents or bounty hunters, nor is there any pending legislation for such).
Notice of Forfeiture
HRS § 804-51 HAWAII REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED DIVISION 5.CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS TITLE 38. PROCEDURAL AND SUPPLEMENTARY PROVISIONS CHAPTER 804. Bail; Bond to Keep the Peace PART III. FORFEITURE § 804-51 Procedure.
Whenever the court, in any criminal cause, forfeits any bond or recognizance given in a criminal cause:
the court shall immediately enter up judgment in favor of the State and against the principal or principals and surety or sureties on the bond, jointly and severally, for the full amount of the penalty thereof,

and shall cause execution to issue thereon immediately after the expiration of thirty days from the date that notice is given via certified mail, return receipt requested, to the surety or sureties on the bond, of the entry of the judgment in favor of the State,

unless before the expiration of thirty days from the date that notice is given to the surety or sureties on the bond of the entry of the judgment in favor of the State, a motion or application of the principal or principals, surety or sureties, or any of them, showing good cause why execution should not issue upon the judgment, is filed with the court.

If the motion or application, after a hearing held thereon, is sustained, the court shall vacate the judgment of forfeiture and, if the principal surrenders or is surrendered pursuant to sections 804-14 or 804-41 (*** See "Forfeiture Defenses" below ***), return the bond or recognizance to the principal or surety, whoever shall have given it, less the amount of any cost, as established at the hearing, incurred by the State as a result of the nonappearance of the principal or other event on the basis of which the court forfeited the bond or recognizance.

If the motion or application, after a hearing held thereon, is overruled, execution shall forthwith issue and shall not be stayed unless the order overruling the motion or application is appealed from as in the case of a final judgment.


This section shall be considered to be set forth in full in words and figures in, and to form a part of, and to be included in, each and every bond or recognizance given in a criminal cause, whether actually set forth in the bond or recognizance, or not.

Court decisions
James Lindblad, Inc., 83 Haw. 118, 925 P.2d 288 (1996), reconsideration denied, 83 Haw. 408, 927 P.2d 416 (1996). The Surety's notice of appeal was timely and the court had appellate jurisdiction because the notice of appeal was filed within thirty days of "the appealable event". State v. Ranger Ins. Co. ex rel.
Allotted Time between Forfeiture Declaration and Payment Due Date.
(See above, sub A, items 1-4)
Forfeiture Defenses.
(See above, #3, sub A, items 4-6)

HI ST § 804-14--S 804-14 Discharge of sureties.

Those who may have become bail for anyone, may at any time discharge themselves, by surrendering him to the custody of any sheriff or chief of police or his authorized subordinate.

HI ST § 804-41-- S 804-41 Discharge of surety.
At any time before the breach of the condition of the bond, the surety may discharge oneself by surrendering the principal into the hands of any sheriff or the chief of police or the sheriff 's or chief 's authorized subordinate.
HRS § 657D-3 HAWAII REVISED STATUTES ANNOTATED DIVISION 4. COURTS AND JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS TITLE 36. CIVIL REMEDIES AND DEFENSES AND SPECIAL PROCEEDINGS [CHAPTER 657D]. CIVIL RELIEF FOR STATE MILITARY FORCES PART I. GENERAL PROVISIONS (§ 657D-3) Protection of persons secondarily liable.
Whenever by reason of the military service of a principal, the sureties of a criminal bail bond are prevented from enforcing the attendance of their principal and performing their obligation, the court shall not enforce the provisions of the bond during the military service of that principal. The court, in accordance with principles of equity and justice, may discharge those sureties and exonerate the bail either during or after such service.
Court decisions
State v. Camara, 81 Haw. 324, 916 P.2d 1225 (1996).
In order for a surety to recover its bond, less costs, either of the following must be met: (1) the principle surrenders, which, includes both voluntary and involuntary surrender by the principal to law enforcement officials; or (2) the principal is surrendered by the surety to the appropriate authority.

"Good cause why execution should not issue upon the judgment" encompasses a showing of a satisfactory reason for a defendant's failure to appear when required.

"Good cause why execution should not issue upon the judgment" of forfeiture may be shown by the defendant surrendering or being surrendered prior to expiration of the thirty-day search period.

State v. Taylor, 56 Haw. 203, 532 P.2d 663 (1975). Where defendant made her appearance before the adjournment of the court, an order for bail forfeiture would be set aside.
Remission.
(No specific provisions exist in the HI statutes at this time in regard to "remission").
Bail Agent’s Arrest Authority.
*** The following sections from the HI statutes imply that Bail Enforcement Agents and Bounty Hunters have the authority to arrest principals by referring to their ability to "surrender" a principal into the hands of law enforcement. ***

HI ST § 804-14--S 804-14 Discharge of sureties.

Those who may have become bail for anyone, may at any time discharge themselves, by surrendering him to the custody of any sheriff or chief of police or his authorized subordinate.

HI ST § 804-41-- S 804-41 Discharge of surety.
At any time before the breach of the condition of the bond, the surety may discharge oneself by surrendering the principal into the hands of any sheriff or the chief of police or the sheriff 's or chief 's authorized subordinate.
Other Noteworthy Provisions.
N/A
Noteworthy State Appellate Decisions.
State v. Flores
88 Hawai'i 126, 962 P.2d 1008
Hawai'i App.
Aug 14, 1998

Bail surety filed motion to set aside bond forfeiture ordered when bonded defendant fled before trial. The First Circuit Court denied motion, and bail surety appealed. The Intermediate Court of Appeals, Watanabe, J., held that surety was not entitled to relief from bond forfeiture after surety located defendant, but law enforcement officers in jurisdiction where the defendant was located allegedly refused to arrest defendant and return him because Hawai'i had not entered bench warrant information into Federal Bureau of Investigation's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) computer system.
Affirmed.
State v. Camara
81 Hawai'i 324, 916 P.2d 1225
Hawai'i
May 15, 1996

Surety moved to set aside judgment of forfeiture of appearance bond. The First Circuit Court, City and County of Honolulu, denied motion, and surety appealed. The Supreme Court, Moon, C.J., held that: (1) surety's notice of appeal was timely, and (2) surety was entitled to return of its bond, less costs.
Vacated and remanded.
Ruth v. Fleming
2 Haw.App. 585, 637 P.2d 784
Hawai'i App.
Dec 15, 1981

Bail bondsman appealed from judgment of the District Court, First Circuit, Honolulu Division, Honolulu County, Kenneth W. Harada, J., denying indemnification on ground that the expenses incurred and claimed arose out of the bondsman's negligence. The Intermediate Court of Appeals, Padgett, J., held that: (1) evidence supported finding that the bondsman had been negligent, and (2) the bondsman was not entitled to be indemnified against results of his own negligence, where the agreement did not contain any language providing for indemnity in such a case.
Affirmed.

Bounty Hunter Provisions.
At this time, there appear to be no specific regulations for "Bounty Hunters" in the Hawaii statutes.

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 Post subject: Re: new season of DOG
 Post Posted: Fri 04 Dec 2009 00:14 
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What you see on Dog BH is not even real. Reality tv is not at all reality. They rig the outcome of everything because reality is not exciting. It's all creative editing and pre-arranged situations. I know people who have had reality shows about tracking. The entire game was rigged and every time the trackers would catch the people they let them go again because the show would have been over in 10 minutes. So don't be deceived by Dog's tv antics.

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 Post subject: Re: new season of DOG
 Post Posted: Fri 04 Dec 2009 11:32 
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I find it very hard to fathom that the show is scripted; prompt maybe, such as editing scenes to co-inside with the time frame and content of television. He is in no-way an actor,(he performs well)but a bounty hunter to the state of Hawaii, based on their laws. (R-Rated)


We all know if he were to reside in any other state, he would certainly be out of business. However, I admire the mans determination and courage for stepping up to the plate in order to turn his life around a make a living in support of his family.


Another example of achievements:
Mr. Hendricks of Hendricks motor sports, has manages great success over the years from miss-hap numbers, and is a true leader in my book.


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 Post subject: Re: new season of DOG
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Mr. Hendrick, there is no "s", has a federal felony conviction for price fixing at his automotive dealerships.
Regardless of the success he has been the leader of, he is still a convicted criminal, and the conviction was not unfounded.
How much money do you think he made before his competitors and customers became aware of the illegal activity, and then motivated
someone to act on it?

This is no different from the Dog. He has not learned any humility for any of his previous convictions, and chooses to violate the civil rights of his targets, without regard to the safety of other citizens or the ramifications of his actions on the entire industry.

I know that you are new and this is not a personal attack, but everyone has consequences for their actions, and some will injur an entire industry. This is not something that I casually brush off as a non-issue.

Scott

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