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USRB PERSONNEL - Why do you advertise and state attendees at your class will be licensed in New York and they can have your badge? I have this date sent a query to the NY State Police, Department of Insurance and Secretary of State for clarification whether or not your advertising is legal. Read the following regarding NY law about a badge...

New Legislation – 1999 New York Assembly Bill No. 1432, New York 223rd Annual Legislative Session Enacted Version Date November 21, 2000. AN ACT to amend the general business law, in relation to the licensing and conduct of the business of bail enforcement agent.

Section 10. Subdivision 1 of section 81 of the general business law, as amended by chapter 680 of the laws of 1967, is amended to read as follows:

It is unlawful for a licensed private investigator <<+ OR BAIL ENFORCEMENT AGENT +>> to issue to any person employed by such licensee, a badge or shield of any material, kind, nature or description, and it is unlawful for any person employed by such licensee to possess, carry or display a badge or shield of any description provided that any licensed private investigator <<+ OR BAIL ENFORCEMENT AGENT +>> who also engages in the business of watch, guard or patrol agency may possess, use or display or issue to employees in the conduct of such business, a rectangular metal or woven insignia to be worn on the outer clothing and approved by the department of state, which insignia shall not be larger than three inches high or four inches wide with an inscription thereon containing the word "watchman" , "guard", "patrol" or "special service" and the name of the licensee.

It is unlawful for a <<+ OR BAIL ENFORCEMENT AGENT +>> to own, have or possess or in any manner to wear, exhibit or display, a shield or badge of any material, kind, nature or description, in the performance of any of the activities as private investigator <<+ OR BAIL ENFORCEMENT AGENT +>> , as distinguished from watch, guard or patrol agency, under this article.

It shall be unlawful for any licensee to publish or cause to be published any advertisement, letter-head, circular, statement or phrase of any sort which suggests that the licensee is an official police or investigative agency or any other agency instrumentality of the state of New York or any of its political subdivisions. It shall be unlawful for any licensee to make any statement which would reasonably cause another person to believe that the licensee is a police officer or official investigator of the state of New York or any of its political subdivisions. It shall be unlawful for a licensee to offer, by radio, television, newspaper advertisement or any other means of communication, to perform services at any location which is merely the location of a telephone answer service unless full disclosure of that fact is made in the advertisement.

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Lance Allen Wilkinson
Recoveries by L.A.W.
Serving since 1984
“What is sought is found... what is overlooked escapes” (Oedipus Rex)

NYPD as well as Federal authorities in NY are not slacking at all in regards to the enforcement of the badge laws.

About 2 months ago a team from PA, working with a licensed NY PI were attempting to surrender a defendant at 26 Federal Plaza with badges on display and were arrested by NYPD and charged. Last night a team of agents from MI were also arrested by NYPD on violations of Section 81 at 26 Federal Plaza. The reply when asked why they would wear badges in NY was "well we did last time"......your joking right?????

USRB attendees have called SAI on more than one occasion attempting to obtain recovery contracts. The best or worst of the calls (depends on how you look at it) was a guy who claimed that he had just graduated from USRB and was able to serve state issued arrest warrants for defendants who skip on bail, NATIONWIDE! The ignorance did not stop there. When asked if he was a sworn law enforcement officer his reply was "I have a badge and ID that says I can"......end of call thanks for playing.

This may read in a very joking manner on a serious subject but anyone who has read or listened to the lies told to the attendees of this "school" know what I am getting at. Enough is enough and these so called "training classes" add nothing but distaste and contempt in the eyes of law enforcement officials, the media and the public in general. It's high time something is done to stop the continued detrimental effects these types of classes have on Bail Enforcement as a whole.

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Don Herbert
Surety Administrators, Inc.
645 Penn St. 4th Floor
Reading, PA. 19601
610-372-8811 xt 262

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

Ruffin,
Did the best I could. Check your email....LOL

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Don Herbert
Surety Administrators, Inc.
645 Penn St. 4th Floor
Reading, PA. 19601
610-372-8811 xt 262

A while ago i posted about a gentlemen arrested in mass on multiple feloney charges--he was a graduate of the usrb--his charges included impersonating a police officer-multiple vehicle and traffic violations--he was caught chasing a vehicle he claimed he witnessed involved in a drug deal ---he was using blue lights -siren- had a police scanner in his vehicle-had a badge and id from the usrb and claimed the usrb ok him working drug detail in mass---the gentlemen was from penn. other charges include felony recklass endangerment- ccw(baton concealed in his shirt) possession of chemical irratint (oc) all of this he claimed was ok by usrb

The badge law in NY was not really being enforced until some BEA's began using badges that implied they were law enforcement and some people using phony BEA and Law Enforcement credentials went around impersonating police.

In addition to the USRB fiasco there were some BEA's who worked immigration cases in NYC who were identifying themselves as Agents from the Department of Homeland Security, I know this because one of them called me looking for work and identified himself as such, after I asked him a few questions he advised he was a BEA working as a contract agent for DHS, I told him Bull Sh** and ended the conversation.

A lot of incidents have taken place in the NYC area during the last year so they are now aware of the regulations concerning BEA's and are going to enforce them.

It's a shame some crackpots had to ruin things, using a proper BEA badge is helpful in quickly identifying ones self when making an arrest but people doing BEA work in NY better start doing without one.

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Chuck

BEA's under contract with Homeland Security:

This is a reality. There are INS Bail Bondsmen who do national bonds on illegal immigrants who get arrested for various charges and request bail services. So when they FTA on thier charges an INS bondsmen follows the same procedure as a regular bondsman in hiring a BEA to recover his skip. However, this is where the diferences come into play. The fugitive is under FEDERAL AUTHORITY and therefore has to be remanded to specific federal intake centers during specified hours.

On these bonds they are plastered with the "Homeland Security" logo and declare that the fugitive is wanted by the Dpt. of Homeland Security, etc etc.

Additionally, a Congressman in a news conference sometime last year suggested publicly that the Dpt. of Homeland Security contract with Bounty Hunters to round up all of the illegal aliens for immediate deportation.

Now the reality of the situation according to 2 INS bondsmen that I contract with is this: The federal government does not want the bodies, they want the bond forfeitures. That is another reason why they make it so difficult on the bondsmen regarding the apprehension and surrendering of thier illegal bail skips.

On the avg it costs the American tax payer app. $10k/illegal alien for deportation expenses. By the same token, the federal government can forfiet on bonds ranging anywhere from $10k to $1mil/fugitive...you do the math.

FYI: 1 of my INS clients told me confidentially that certain people in the ICE administration "Strongly Cautioned" him against pursuing his illegal skips..that it was in his "Best Interest" to simply pay the forfeitures.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

BEA's are Agents of the Bondsman not the DHS, so this guy saying he was a DHS Agent was not correct, I know ICE would rather have the money than the alien but I don't think there is any conspiracy, it's probably some ICE employees that have nowhere to house the prisoners that decided to take out their fustration on the BEA's by complaining about them not being in compliance with State law.

If the BEA's were following the law 100% they would not have had any problems.

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Chuck

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but INS bonds are civil bonds, not criminal bonds. How can a BEA apprehend on a civil bond? I know the bond is posted by a bondsman 'but' it is still a civil bond. Those facing deportation aren't criminally charged.

If memory serves me correctly some BEA's in Massachusetts had to 'cease-and-desist' because they were gathering up INS people who jumped bail on a civil bond.

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Lance Allen Wilkinson
Recoveries by L.A.W.
Serving since 1984
“What is sought is found... what is overlooked escapes” (Oedipus Rex)

If you remember A bea from mass was charged with kidnapping in mass when he picked up a immigration bond skip--he was found guilty and the outfit he worked for was --- they did alot of work for capitol bonding (vince smith) all over new england.I believe that the company is also out of business--they had the best website i have ever seen