So you want Uncle Sam to run Health Care??

Here is a quick thought...

You want the government to run health care huh? That is simply a large step in the direction that I believe we are headed....

Consider this...

Take the 3 largest package and mail carriers in this country and compare them....

Fedex, UPS and the US Postal Service.....

which one is in trouble? filled with inefficiencies...

which one or two are making the money and doing the best job....

I rest my case....


POST SCRIPT: The United States is criticized at every turn, it is denounced, it is chastised, it is held to ridicule by a multitude of countries around the world, but with all it's faults, it is still the one that people are fighting to get into and I cannot think of another that I would rather be living in.

If you remove free enterprise and the rewards for hard work in the economy and place it in the hands of the government, you will effectively remove the incentives that creates all the great strides of man and we will sink into the abyss of socialism and our country as it has existed for only a few hundred years will also cease to exist... frankly, I refer you back to the "How to catch a wild hog" story that I posted on this site several months ago... I am 65 and will probably not live to see this take place but it is coming just as sure as the sun rises, unless people with backbone and character step up to the plate and stop it and as sad as it may be.... I don't believe that will happen.

YET ANOTHER POST SCRIPT: As many problems as may exist in the drug industry... what do you think will happen to the many competing drug companies that fund the research industry that develops and refines the drugs we have.... if.... the government steps in to health care and removes the development and research money or in some way places the development in the hands of wokers that are not paid for their creativity or skills but instead are paid a salary like the folks in DC... do you think that might have any effect on the development of new cures, drugs or research being done??? Do you believe that Pfizer (who happens to be the worlds largest research and development drug company) for example, will continue to spend millions upon millions of research dollars if the incentive produced by the sale of same should fall to total governemt pricing and control?

I would appreciate someone with more brains than I explaining to me why it is so difficult to get this through to the average person that is out there screaming for government reform of the health care system..... yes, it needs many fixes but government control..... I think not.

If you have not read it.... I beg you to do a search and read the article I posted "How to catch a wild pig"

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Good Point Speezack, I never thought about it that way lol

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I'm sure that Obumble will do just as well on this as everything else.

What I don't understand is, he promissed transparency, there isn't any.
He promised free thinking, new ideas, unless he doesn't agree with you and you are attacked, publicly.
He is hearing the will of the people, those very people that he was elected by and answers to, about health care reform, and he attacks those people viciously for publicly stating their opposition. His response, you don't know what is good for you, but I do, and since I am smarter than you, you are going to get it whether you like it or not.
He blames Fox News, particular program hosts for that network, and the Republican party for the public push back on health care reform...Don't the Democrats have the majority in both houses? We don't have the power in congress to fight it ourselves, his own party is pushing back! They are hearing from their constituents, and they damn well better listen, because there is a reason that Democrats only get in for a term or two.
It wasn't black people that elected him, they are only 14% of the population, and I am happy they got what they wanted. Unfortunately, his lack of listening skills and poor performance with the condescending attitude is going to keep this phenomenon from repeating for a very long time, possibly generations. I sure wish Colin Powell ran for President, there is a man of honor, integrity, morals, principles and ACCOMPLISHMENTS! Had he ran and been elected, it would have been very positive for men and women of color who followed in his footsteps.

Off the soap box, scared of where we are heading with no light at the end of the tunnel...

Scott

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I just don't like him. At all.

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The problem with Obama's health plan, is that is has no concise direction and he is not really looking at the big picture. To try and compete with the insurance companies is pointless. The NHS, or National Health Care, in my home country is a broken shoddy system that leaves huge waitings and ridiculous delays in real medical breakthrough. Now most hospitals in the UK are run by the government, which I guess in a way would make micromanaging costs more efficient. Over here, the medical sector is a private run business. There's no way realistic you could successfully implement a non-profit government plan with running into hospitals who have a 'blank check' policy. Sure they do that procedure, but eventually the government is going to have state that a- taxes will have to be raised to sustain constant application of such a system or b- that procedures will have to evaluated beforehand to determine whether it is needed then or can be put on a waiting, like the NHS does, and done cheaper later, or not at all.

While the rumors of the 'Death Panels' may be misconstrued, it is clear that a system will be put in place that could lead to people being denied life-improving procedures over the interests of the budget.

What we need in strict regulations and incentives for drug companies and insurance companies to divert resources and discourage current trends. It's the reason that there are no cancer drugs; there is simply more money to be made making and marketing ED drugs, than for a underpaid doctor who is trying to better medicine. If we can stop these companies from profiteering, yet retaining their ability to run as businesses and encourage them into government mandated responsibilities then everyone will win.

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All he did just promise and say what people wanted to hear. Nothing have change at all We still in the same predict and we are going deep down none stop. You're ( Presindente)! have spend a lot more money than any President in Power.

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I don't see it that way. The Drug companies put a lot of money into their Research & Development programs . . . Maybe they are spending a bit too much on . . Ahem . . . certain things, (guess good ole "BOB" is gonna have to just suck it up and take Yohimbe).

I think that where the costs can be managed is those 10$ aspirins. . . and 20$ boxes of Kleenex (I am probably just a SMIDGE off on those $ amts but I doubt by much). Kinda lump this along with the 600$ hammers that the Government bought a truck load of back when.

Insurance companies and Individuals should not have to pay that kind of money. My GOD! a bottle of Anacin only costs $9.92 [200tabs] (+ tax) here in AR. Surely they can find a way for the supplies to be costed out at a more reasonable profit margin. Bandaids are only about 2$ a box of 50 and they charge, what?! 4 $+ . . . talk about extortion!

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I think you get most of my point, but as much money that is spent on R&D, I'd say a lot more is spent on marketing and making sure they put legal roadblocks in the way of other companies making generic versions of their products at a less expensive cost. Companies should not work like this.

Look at the videogame industry, a classic example. They start out spending a fortune researching the next generation of their consoles. Then they begin marketing it heavily to compete with the rivals. It usually launches at a fairly steep price, but not too steep as to deter massive sales at the beginning (Sony messed this up with the PS3). Usually other companies bring out similar products and compete, creating a healthy market. Usually these consoles are sold at a loss, in order to establish a base and hopefully keep a good profit margin elsewhere, mainly in 1st party software. Eventually the factories will find ways to cut production costs, and begin making a small profit. Then a series of consumer price reductions will occur to stimulate the competition and sell more consoles to those still on the fence until it was affordable.

There is a fair amount of competition in that market, but this is a luxury market. Noone needs videogames to stay healthy. What most companies do is market a drug way above his production cost because of the huge marketing costs, then keep the price up. The solution? People pick generics, knowing that somewhere someone has already figured out how to make this drug cheaper and just as effective without the clever name and TV Commercials. But, this process is usually artificially lengthened by abuse of the legal and patent systems which the companies which shill the brand name drug at full price. They basically want you to keep paying $6 a pill for nexium, because you feel you have no choice.

This is how ridiculous it's become. It's like the $19.99 you pay for a box of Zantac 150, when without the mint flavor and the eye-catching box you can buy the generic equivalent at the same strength for 1/8th of the price.

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