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I agree Baildoc, never underestimate a six shooter. How about single action ?? .... lol

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I also agree with Baildoc & Yak. My dad is a retired police officer. Since I was knee high to a gopher, I have been shooting his service revolver, a Smith & Wesson Model 15 - .38 cal - Combat Masterpiece.

Quick story: Back in 1993, I had to quailfy at the range for my Louisiana armed security license. At that time, you could only carry a .38 in the state. I showed up at the range with my Dad's old weapon (which he gave to me as a birthday present). I seem to remember we had to fire 50 rounds, with a score of 70 or better to qualify, at a full size silhouette target from the 25 yard line. When I was finished, the X ring was completely gone. The last round I fired was to the head. I handed my target over to the Rangemaster to be graded. You could see from the look on his face that he had never seen this kind of shooting. He pointed to the head shot and asked, "What's this?" Without missing a beat, I replied, "That was in case he was wearing body armor". He gave me a 99 out of 100. What a prick!

The moral to this story is "know your weapon and train, train, train and train so more". I read somewhere about the stats on shooting incidents, in that 99% occur within 15 feet or less. Before law enforcement made the switch from revolvers to semi-automatics, the most rounds fired in a gunfight was 4 rounds. Now it seems that 20 plus rounds are fired.

It is my opinion that should you find yourself in a situation where you have to use deadly force and you are within the 15 foot, 3 shots are the max needed; 2 to the body, 1 to the head. Any situation outside of the 15 foot rule, duck & cover. Let the Bad Boy get away, this is not Hollywood.

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When I qualified for my CHL I shot Bob's 9mil in order to carry anything other than an automatic.
I carry a 38 in my purse, a 40 in my tack bag and a 9mil that Bob gave me sets on the headboard, and a 20 gauge from my Dad stands in the corner.
If anyone gets past the guns...well shoot then they gotta deal with my dogs (Tank and Zoe) 8) :D .
But when I am out working I really don't need to display anything - they know that no matter what the excuse ...they are going to jail.

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Is Dunbar the one that claims to be one of Dogs best friends? if so we now know what type of training was invovled.


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Back when I went through the Police Academy, there were no restrictionson in regards to the weapon we used (within reason--Sling Shot's were not allowed) and most of us selected the ol' standard Glock 22, 27 etc. We had a few with Rugers. But they were all automatics. After we finished 4 weeks of extensive training and performing various shooting tests with sirens going off and instructors yelling at us (my favorite was when we had to run 2 miles, then immediately go in the range and do a test while we were all out of breath) we had a few days of shotgun and .38 revolver training. We were all amazed that our accuracy with that 6-shot revolver .38 was MUCH better than our initial experience with our trusty autos. It was only then that the instructor "reminded" us that we could have qualified with a revolver, but we were all in this mode of "who uses revolvers when you can use an auto?". Needless to say, as soon as we could afford them, we started getting revolvers for duty or backup. Knowing your weapon inside and out is VITAL in any situation where it is necessary you are armed.
While I certainly think the shots fired at the vehicle AFTER he passed were obviously criminal...I can't imagine firing that many shots and missing my target, but nevertheless, thank God nobody was hurt.


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I have posted several concerns about my carrying a short barrel .38 revolver versus an automatic, and in each case have received positive responses about the revolver. My primary concerns were with the reloading time, and it's distance accuracy. I have to admit that my initial rounds weren't as accurate as I though they should be, because I hadn't been to the range in a few monts. :oops: . I was happy, however, that I only missed one shot, from about 30 foot in the final test.

The main thing that the class taught me, was that most danger occurs from within very few feet. With the hollowpoints I load in it and in my little .32 that I carry in my back pocket, I can take down most anyone that comes after me.

Personally, I feel safer with my .32, because it seems to have more accuracy than the .38, but the .38 was the minimum requirement for the class.

What it all comes down to is the perception of danger that people have. People laugh at my .32, because it is so small. They don't realize that I load it with hollow points that will make a large hole in anything that I shoot at. Alternately, James' "show of force" is a 12 guage with the initial round being a beanbag. He also carries a .45 loaded with hollowpoints, and everything in the shotgun after the first round is lethal, but nobody knows that. They see the shotgun, and immediately sense danger. They see my .32 and laugh because it is small. I get the same response out of my .38 with slightly more respect because it is a larger. When you are carrying a weapon, size matters. A big gun carries more weight than a small one.

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Bounty hunter charged in shooting

By Luis Ernesto Gomez/Staff Writer
A Santa Maria bounty hunter has been arrested a month after he allegedly shot several times at an occupied car on South Broadway, officials said.

Monday afternoon, Sylvester Swain, 49, was booked at the Santa Barbara County Jail on suspicion of shooting at an occupied vehicle, assault with a deadly weapon and possession of a loaded firearm in public, according to jail staff. Bail was set at $250,000.

Swain allegedly fired a 9 mm handgun at a 1994 Pontiac Grand Prix occupied by two men and two women in the rear parking lot of El Taco de Mexico in the 700 block of South Broadway, the night of Nov. 13, Santa Maria police said.

Swain claimed self-defense because, he told police, the Pontiac drove toward him. However, he continued to fire as the car drove away, police said.

Neither the driver, Carlos Perez, 40, nor the passengers - Maria Gonzalez, 44, Esperanza Sanchez, 21, and Anthony Aguilera, 41 - were injured, police said.

“He almost killed me,” Perez said in an interview with his attorney present. “We almost all got killed.”

It took a month for police and the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's office to file charges against Swain, mostly because additional evidence needed to be gathered, said Senior Deputy District Attorney Gene Martinez.

At the time of the shooting, Swain was reportedly looking for Fidel Alonso, 43, of Santa Maria who was accused of failing to appear in court and was wanted on a $40,000 felony bench warrant.

Information gathered by the bounty hunter led him to the restaurant where he allegedly identified himself, as required by law, to Perez around 9:15 p.m., police said.

In an interview in the presence of his attorney, Ben A. Romo Jr., Perez denied ever seeing Swain identify himself.

The day after the shooting, a sister of Swain described him as a family man who aspired to be a police officer but ended up working in construction. Through his sister, Swain declined to be interviewed.

Attempts to seek comment from Swain since then have been unsuccessful, and relatives have declined to comment.

Perez said he was picking up Gonzalez, his sister-in-law, from work. Sanchez and Aguilera were riding in the back seat, he added.

Police have not released many details of what happened that night, but Perez claims that Swain - a big, tall man - approached the car with his gun already drawn.

At that point, everyone in the car panicked, Perez said.

“I put on the gas and wanted to go out as soon as possible,” Perez said.

He said he heard Swain yell, “No. No. No!” as the Pontiac sped out of the parking lot and onto Jones Street.

Perez said he drove toward Swain, who stood near the sidewalk adjacent to Jones, but denies doing it intentionally.

Of the four shots that hit the Pontiac, one bullet entered the driver's side door and almost hit Perez's waist, according to a police report.

The other three bullets hit a lower place on the same door, the front fender of the driver's side, and a spot near the trunk, the report showed.

The Pontiac sped out of the parking lot, first on Jones and then north onto Broadway, where the front right wheel broke off as it hit a concrete center divider, police said.

Swain continued shooting but missed the car with other rounds and instead hit several businesses on the northeast corner of the intersection, police said.

One bullet shattered a front window of Santa Maria Hair Design, 628 S. Broadway. The business was closed at the time.

Police later stopped the car about a block north of Jones and took everyone into custody, but the four people in the car were released without charges.

As of Monday, Alonso remains at large.

Several bail agents, who typically hire bounty hunters, throughout the state heard the story quickly.

A member of the California Bail Agents Association immediately denounced Swain's actions.

Because no agency in the state issues licenses for bail fugitive recovery agents, anyone who acts as one must comply with a number of standards, according to California Law.

Any bounty hunter who is in the process of capturing a wanted suspect must carry a valid California security-guard card or a fugitive-recovery license issued in another state.

As of Monday night, police had not disclosed whether Swain had a security-guard card or whether he had a gun permit, which is also required by law.

Bounty hunters, who are typically hired by a bail agent, must wear identifying clothing or carry documents and must notify police six hours prior to capturing a bail fugitive.

Swain made that call to Santa Maria police that night, police said.

And though Santa Maria police have worked with bounty hunters in the past, Lt. Kendall Greene said this is the first time one has used a firearm. And this is the first case he knows about that involved an arrest of a bounty hunter who used a firearm, Greene added.

“When he made contact with the vehicle, he did not stop and call the police department for them to handle the situation once it got out of control,” Greene said.

“Why that didn't happen, I don't know.”

Romo, who says will be representing Perez in civil court, says he's ready to file a lawsuit.

“We'll be seeking damages to Mr. Perez including battery, assault, attempt to commit bodily injury, among other things,” Romo said.

“I think it's something that needs to be addressed, and these people who were affected by it deserve it.”

Luis Ernesto Gomez can be reached at 739-2218, or lgomez@santamariatimes.com.

December 19, 2006


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Anything new on this?

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Not yet. I've been checking the local papers.


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Santa Maria bounty hunter jailed for shooting into car05/18/07 07:24:04
A bounty hunter arrested for shooting into a car with four people inside was ordered to spend nine months in jail.
Sylvester Swain, 50, pleaded no contest to a felony count of firing into an occupied vehicle on Nov. 13, Deputy District Attorney Stephen Foley said. As part of a plea deal reached May 10, five other felony counts were dropped.

He had faced more than 15 years in prison if convicted on all six charges.

Swain was also placed on five years' probation. As a convicted felon, he can no longer possess a firearm and he cannot work as a bail enforcement agent while on probation, Foley said.

Swain, who was looking for a fugitive wanted on a $40,000 felony bench warrant, fired from a 9mm handgun as a car allegedly drove toward him in the rear parking lot of El Taco de Mexico, police said. Four bullets hit the car, but none of the occupants was hit.
Information from: Santa Maria Times

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