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SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT
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Post subject: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Sat 04 May 2013 09:35 |
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Joined: Thu 01 Dec 2011 03:49 Posts: 1182 Location: Los Angeles, California
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Mon 06 May 2013 13:43 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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I would like to know what federal and state case laws allow one who is not LEO to carry handcuffs into a court house.
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OrangeCountyBounty
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Mon 06 May 2013 13:53 |
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Joined: Fri 27 Mar 2009 21:26 Posts: 993 Location: Orange, CA
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There is no such animal. You can't even bring a handcuff KEY into a courthouse. (I've lost a couple this way.)
_________________ Tom Duprey Founding member, NABBI (Nat'l Assoc. of Bail Bond Inv.) Ca. Bail Agent Lic#1845795 Owner/Operator, Thomas Duprey Bail Bonds Owner/Operator, Orange County Bounty (714) 727-4689
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SURETYRISKMANAGEMENT
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Mon 06 May 2013 13:53 |
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Joined: Thu 01 Dec 2011 03:49 Posts: 1182 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Beats me. I've only been allowed to bring handcuffs into one courthouse. That was in Las Vegas, Nevada. For the most part, I was not allowed to cuff people inside of a court room, but the hallways were fair game. I can only recall two incidents where I was allowed to handcuff a defendant inside of a court room. That was only after having received the judge's blessing.
_________________ Jason Pollock Owner/Operator Surety Risk Management Los Angeles, California (323) 786-FIND
"Approach is Everything."
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B Williams
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Mon 06 May 2013 14:36 |
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Joined: Wed 20 Apr 2011 14:25 Posts: 1351
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I can't speak for any law allowing cuffs to be brought into a courtroom but I can tell youI've done it on many occassions, with no problems. I've never apprehended a skip inside the courtroom but have apprehended many in the halls. I'm referring to NC Courthouses only.
I don't know the bondsman in question here but I do know Forsyth County can be a really tough area to work if you're a Bail Agent. Judges don't like you, LE doesn't like you, bailiffs don't like you etc etc etc. As usual, I'm witholding judgemement on this one. Anxious to see the facts come out.
_________________ Bill Williams Bail Agent Eagle Bonding Services Asheville NC 28804 828-777-8667 Lic # NC10013561 Lic # TN 2033018
Never be haughty to the humble or humble to the haughty - Jefferson Davis
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DSI
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Mon 06 May 2013 16:15 |
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Joined: Fri 28 Mar 2008 04:55 Posts: 1269 Location: Maryland, Delaware, & Virginia
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I concur, I would like to see where this goes. However it appears it is a lot issues going on with this gentleman and all seems to be related to his being an alleged law enforcement officer. I sort of laughed at what Bill W. said , My father was born Kernersville in the 1930’s and I use to visit there as a child along with Winston –Salem the family farm. I can say first hand Forsyth County is not all that great.
_________________ Domestic Security Investigations P.O. Box 4462 Rockville, MD 20849 Tel: 1-800-387-0787 Anti-Moral Majority Club President "Fear not the unknown, Fear the person who controls the unknown" Gene 7:14
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Tue 07 May 2013 14:51 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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I can see if he was surrendering a defendant to the custody of the court, that maybe they would allow him to bring a cuffed defendant into the court house.
Of course each state and even some counties have their own rules about what can or can't be brought into a court house.
As Tom stated, in CA you can't even bring in a cuff key.
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NYPD BLUE
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Tue 07 May 2013 15:10 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:07 Posts: 1033 Location: Miami, FL
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Here in Miami .. you CAN bring Handcuffs and Cuff Keys into the Court House.. .. you CAN bring Handcuffs and Cuff Keys into the Jail ..
Here in Broward .. you CAN bring Handcuffs and Keys into the Court House.. you CAN NOT bring Handcuffs or Keys into the Jail when posting a bond..
Here in Palm Beach .. you CAN bring Handuffs and Keys into the Court House.. .. you CAN bring Handcuffs and Cuff Keys into the Jail ..
_________________ JEFF P. Limited Surety Agent (FL) - License # P_2O8124_ Private Investigator (FL) - License # C_27OOO33_ NABBI Member
"Surprise Sex is the Best Thing to Wake up to, UNLESS, You are in Jail... "
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Tue 07 May 2013 16:49 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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I have miniature handcuffs key chains that has our company name an phone number on a little plastic tag attached to them.
They are barely big enough to place on your little finger.
I can't take them into any court house in CA.
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Reinere
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Post subject: Re: Forsyth County bondsman denies misdemeanor charges... Posted: Wed 08 May 2013 17:52 |
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Joined: Tue 18 Sep 2012 22:24 Posts: 144 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I've only had one such occasion where I have brought handcuffs into a court room. But that was for a capture. All other occasions I find it's best to leave the toys in the car.
_________________ "Cage" Recovery Agent Bail License #40313820
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