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tsuggs
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Post subject: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sat 22 May 2010 11:08 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
FRN Agency ID #: 3904
Experience: More than 10 years
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Hispanic Panic
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sat 22 May 2010 17:46 |
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Being new around here, all I can say is. I think things like this happen due to a lack of training. Plus if you’re doing anything that’s regulated without a license that’s just plain stupid. But I have heard of a little bit of this going on in my area. It’s an automatic free ride to jail that for sure. I think some people in this area get lucky because Law Enforcement (LE) don’t always know the laws pertaining to Bail Enforcement.
There a fine line in-between good guy and bad guy. You start putting your hands on people without proper training, or for the wrong reason. You’re asking to be caught on the wrong side of the line. I have a good solid ten years of training and work experience, I know for a fact I would never try to do BEA work without a license. I mean you better be making a good 1million before it worth sometime in jail and ruining your name. Bottom line it’s just not worth it, you should in my opinion stay low key and off LE radar. These guys were pinging the hell out of LE radar, just asking to be arrested. But since I am not a BEA yet, this is just my opinion.
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MSTFLocklear
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 06:35 |
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Yeah we notify the Wv state police before we do anything, but other than that they don't even know we are around.
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 06:56 |
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Joined: Thu 06 Jul 2006 14:22 Posts: 3982 Location: Maryland and Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 455
Experience: More than 10 years
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What individuals need to know in practicing this craft is this:
We are not above the law
We are not endeared to LE
We are not endeared to our clientèle and their families
We are target for all of the above and when an individual writes, or is written about, excessive LE contact in a negative way, they failed, period.
In reading the links so graciously provided by Mr. Suggs, a prominent Bondsman and leader in the Surety Industry in CA, is an example of above. The only possible defense for one of the charges is that the subject may have had a Warrant, but it was not in the system, and therefore could not be verified. Lesson: ALWAYS carry a true test copy of the Warrant for out of normal jurisdiction re-arrests, ALWAYS have the level of extradition increased to the area that the subject is located in and this won't happen. Of coarse one must be licensed accordingly and not breaking any additional laws, to include having open Warrants themselves!
If you have not been successful in having the extradition level of Warrants increased in order to apprehend an individual, it is time for retrospection. When offering to apprehend the subject at no expense to the Sheriff's Department, it ensures cooperation when you need it where the fugitive is located. If they refuse, it is cause for a Motion of Exoneration, complete with the investigation report indicating the location of the fugitive and that the State was given the opportunity to cooperate and refused. In effect, the State, by and through it's refusal to cooperate, has left you no choice but to break the law to uphold the law, and that you won't due. Include cites for the UCEA in both states and any applicable law in your jurisdiction. If done professionally, you might be surprised at what you can accomplish.
Scott
_________________ R.E. "Scott" MacLean III
"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"
Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc. Chesapeake Bail Bonds 877-574-0500 301-392-1100 (fax) 301-392-1900 (Office)
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 07:03 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
Experience: More than 10 years
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Quote: I have a good solid ten years of training and work experience Quote: But since I am not a BEA yet Hispanic Panic, I am confused since your name tag says no experience... what's with the first quote? Also, Yak... do you know those guys in the NJ story... sounds like they get around. Seems like I have heard of Burton Bail bonds... just curious. I think Scott spelled it out very clearly.
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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Hispanic Panic
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 11:24 |
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Sorry not trying to confuse anyone, I am not a BEA, I was talking about my Security Forces experience in the Air Force as well as my contract Government Armed Security experience. Both have provide me with some training, this is what I was talking about. So once again I am sorry if I confused anyone on my status of being a BEA, I am not one. I was just trying to post my opinion.
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 16:10 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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No problem George, we can blame it on your California up bringing.
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Hispanic Panic
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Sun 23 May 2010 18:02 |
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At least now I have a good excuse, wish I would have thought of it sooner.
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speezack
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Post subject: Re: It Must Be Spring! Posted: Mon 24 May 2010 07:49 |
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Joined: Fri 02 Mar 2007 10:51 Posts: 5055 Location: South Central Virginia
FRN Agency ID #: 1474
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HP... that excuse has worked for Tony for many, many years...................
_________________ Bill Marx, Sr. "FREE STATE BAIL BONDS" "FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS" DCJS: 99-176979 Cell: 434-294-0222
"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"
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