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Mr Zephyr
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Post subject: Service Members Posted: Tue 29 Apr 2008 23:17 |
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I have looked all over and asked a million people (ok, maybe not that many) but either no one knows, or they're not sharing. I am trying to find out if Active Duty soldiers can engage in Fugitive Recovery. I am a soldier and I live in Missouri, but haven't found anyhting that even mentions service members. Does anyone know?
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue 29 Apr 2008 23:57 |
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It all depends on your state laws and requirements. Check your state laws and with the Attorney General's office. They should be able to answer your question.
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
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RCrew
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 09:44 |
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Also, any job outside of active duty that may be potentially dangerous must first be cleared by your immediate commander (company, squadron, etc.). If you become injured and not able to perform your military duties you can also be subject to Articles of the the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice).
I'm not trying to discourage you...just a word of caution from a retired Army officer.
_________________ Randall Crew Randall Crew & Associates 641-289-0136
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 10:15 |
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To expand on Mr. Crew's comments:
As an active duty member of the armed forces, you are the property of the USA.
Being "owned" by the government, you signed a contract upon enlistment. With that contract you agreed to millions of things...1 of which is that you shall maintain yourself in a fit state of readiness at all times, that you will not maim, injure, or otherwise render yourself in an unfit state of readiness at any time, ...yadda yadda yadda.
The point that I am trying to get to is this : While on active duty, if engaged in non-military activities, you place yourself into harm's way and render yourself incapable of fulfilling the rest of your military obligation, you could face criminal charges all the way up to a full scale court martial.
The military has even gone so far on occasions to issue article 13's to enlisted personnel for allowing themselves to get so sunburned at a beach to the point where they had to go on sick call when they returned to thier duty station.
So if you get injured during a BEA apprehension, it could cost you problems with the military.
Like anything else, it isn't illegal for active duty personnel to work in this sector, but it may be a breech of your military contract....These are things to consider.
I would check with your local JAG officer and research the UCMJ regarding non-military employment codes.
BTW, thank you for your service to our country and welcome home...
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_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
Last edited by SpanielPI on Wed 30 Apr 2008 20:09, edited 1 time in total.
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SnoWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 17:39 |
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Agreed with Ruffin. While on active duty I had to refrain from MMA competitions. I was told that the first time I couldn't report to muster, I would be sent to the brig to await trial. So, although, not specificly stated, active military personel, most likely, can not perform the duties of this industry, without the STRONG possibilties of Mass (I think the land loving branches call it Court Martial...but I'm not sure)
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 20:08 |
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I haven't had cause to keep up with current military regulations, but I know that many, many, many years ago, I had a brother in law charged for a sunburn related incident, and also charged again when he was injured in a motorcycle accident. Both were considered personal in the context of the military contract, and he paid a fine, and/or did time for them.
When it comes down to it, YOU are the one facing the charges, so it is up to YOU to decide how to proceed. Just because it is legal does not mean that it is smart.
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
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Kathy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 20:17 |
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Joined: Tue 24 May 2005 14:46 Posts: 3334 Location: Colorado
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Lest you take my opinion or words wrong, I have a great nephew in the military, and I support him and every other soldier fully! My personal opinion is that soldiers should serve our country fully during the time they are under contract and/or willing to do so. I have nothing but respect and support for everyone that supports our freedom. Once that is done, we welcome you to the private sector.
I may have problems with how our country is run, but that is on our elected officials, and will never affect my belief in our soldiers. I thank all of you for what you do for me! You give your all to protect the rights that the politicians take away. Go figure...
_________________ Kathy Blackshear Blackshear Investigations Blackshear Bail Bonds Sales Associate, Prepaid Legal Services, Inc. Walsenburg, CO
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Mr Zephyr
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Post subject: Posted: Wed 30 Apr 2008 22:23 |
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Thank you everyone for the help.
I have checked the UCMJ and, as some of you said, it doesn't give a definite no against engaging in Fugitive Recovery, but as an After Duty Job I would have to clear it with my Commander. In June I will be putting in my recruiting packet so I can go home and finally settle down, moving around all the time gets old. So I will be contacting the Commander for the area I am going to be trying to recruit out of to see what he has to say.
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