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 Post subject: Trying to get someone from Honduras
 Post Posted: Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:09 
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I have a 80k bond and my client has fled to Honduras. Does anyone have any experience with a situation like this? I just want to know if there is ANYTHING I can do! Thank you


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
 Post Posted: Wed 17 Apr 2013 20:19 
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You will have to give little more info about the case such as, what state are you in, how much time you have to return the skip, plus a little about you would also help.

Some times the skips join the network looking for info that can help them evade us.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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Thank you for replying, I'm out of Elizabeth city North Carolina and have only 3 months left and have just found out where my guy is. I have never dealt with anything like this neither has any of my associates so I was told to try FRN. I, of course familiar with all laws but was just looking for some (outside of the box) ideas. Thank you for your time


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
 Post Posted: Thu 18 Apr 2013 12:12 
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Bounty400,

I'm out of NC also. Give these guys some info such as the company you're with, Your name, who you write for would be good...Just make an introduction and tell these guys a little more about yourself and your chances of getting the info you're looking for will become much greater. Tell Dallas, I said Hi!!

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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First you must approach the wanting jurisdiction with a written request for a UFAP warrant. That is the second part of a triple sealed warrant. Type up your investigation in such a manner that another investigator would have no problem placing their career on your work product. That is the standard you must reach. The last process is when the federal agency that takes the case, FBI, DEA, or US Marahals, requests a warrant in the country where the fugitive is located. Notice that this respects the sovereignty of the country where the skip is located, which is in stark contrast to what yhe Chapmans did in Mexico with Andrew Luster. Remember to include in your initial request that you are willing to pay all extradition costs. If they refuse then you can motion the court for relief for not cooperating with the only legal means to recover the skip.
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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
 Post Posted: Fri 19 Apr 2013 12:31 
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He can motion, but will do him no good. Not in NC anyways. However NC allows three years to get some of your money back. One of the requirements is to show relentless pursuit of the defendant, so if you jump through those hoops and your guy happens to return to the sates and you apprehend him within that 3 year period you can at least try and show relentless pursuit of the defendant. The judge has total discretion in this matter and if you've worked in NC for any length of time, you know, you'll probably get nothing! Sorry to be so cynical, but that's the way it is in this state.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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I forgot about the school board attorneys, Bill. My bad, I was just tryin' stay outa trouble!
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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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Scott,

You may remember. I chased a guy from NC to SC and he ran and broke his ankle, he was scared and broke in a guys house and the cops were called, all of a sudden I was surrounded by SC cops so I backed off...He was apprehended by SC Law enforcement where he was charged with burglary, breaking and entering and a probation violation. Nothing I could do when thhe cops showed up. He was put under No Bond and was sentenced to prisonin SC. I did everything I could and the my client had to pay the bond....We were offered a deal where the client had to pay 50 percent of the bond. Go figure.

Only good thing about that one was "I stayed out of trouble" :D

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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Thank you all so much for all the input, it is what I figured and with only 3 months left I already felt I was screwed with extradition time and all the hoops there is no way to get him in time all I can hope is the school board will negotiate the amount owed as they usually will do. Let this be a lesson to all.,. Do your homework on all bonds before writing them and stay safe thanks again. John Jacobson


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to get someone from Honduras
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If he is not a citizen of Honduras you may be able to get him deported, in which case he would be arrested upon arrival in the U.S.

This can happen swiftly and does not require any involvement by U.S. authorities or the bureaucratic process and delays involved in extradition. If you make the right contacts in Honduras i.e. a local attorney and pay them a reasonable fee, the wheels of immigration justice can move amazingly fast.

I haven't done this in Honduras but I've had some success at this in Mexico, Costa Rico and Colombia. In these cases I went there in person and provided "encouragement" throughout the entire process. The case in Colombia was a non custodial parental abduction case, not a bail skip but the same principles applied.

If your skip is a citizen of Honduras then it would be a lengthy bureaucratic nightmare that would likely exceed your forfeiture time frame.


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