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OK> 29 views and no reply as to where my post went or why. I will go forward with the assumption that it was removed by a moderator for what they believed was a legitimate reason, but even giving this idea the benefit of the doubt, it seems to give credibility to Madi's assertion that a new venue will be needed for the open and honest exchange of ideas. Any national association will of neccessity have to extend beyond the boundaries and control of this forum. It will need new ideas and participation that is not subject to the control of the moderators here or I fear it will never get off the ground. An association with enough members and participation will undoubtably include people who will not get along and may not even for personal reasons like each other, but unlike a moderated forum, we will have to set aside our personal differences and treat each other with professional regard and diplomacy. I am reminded of a scene in the musical 1776 between Franklin and Adams where the entire idea of American independence was on the verge of being derailed by the rift between Adams and South over the issue of slavery. Franklin told Adams, "These are proud and accomplished men, not ribbon clerks to be ordered around, and like it or not, they are going to be a part of this new and proud nation that we are trying to form. You better learn to live with them or forget the entire idea and go home." We, who are committed to this venture, are closer than I have ever seen in my career of making this happen, but we must be diplomatic and respectful of each others positions. I think Bill is absolutely correct in that we need not only bail bondsman and recovery agents, but I will go even farther and include also insurance companies, PBUS, General Agents, and yes, even some of those that others might consider cowboys and wannabes, in order to make this work. I include these last two because at one time or another, every respected member of this board was at least at one time probably thought of as a cowboy or a wannabe. At least I know that I was. Before we start excluding anyone, we should first make sure there will be enough of us left to build a base from. I am prepared to committ time and money to the formation and existence of a new association but not just an extension of this forum or any other association. I am willing, for my part, to forego petty differences, personality conflicts, and ego problems, all of which I have in abundance, but I'm not willing to have my or anyone else's thoughts on the subect moderated or censored. I acknowledge that this forum and its moderators have that absolute right and for this reason alone, I think that either they( the moderators) should either relinquish that right or we should find a new unmoderated venue for the free exchange of thoughts and ideas.
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Joe Stiles
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Black Aces Bail Recovery
Knoxville, TN
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