Kentucky

I was told by a BEA over the weekend that Kentucky opened its doors to our profession again.

I cant find anything with a quick search to support that. So, in my usual lazy way, I thought I would post the question on here. Have any of you fine folks heard anything of the sort? Or is this just bunk?

Supposively it was opened up in July.

To recovery and private surety bail?

Guys
I just searched it and found nothing definitive, but have heard that there have been legislative studies done, but no answer as of yet.

Scott

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R.E. "Scott" MacLean III

"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"

Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc.
Chesapeake Bail Bonds
877-574-0500
301-392-1100 (fax)
301-392-1900 (Office)

I lived in Kentucky and my brother is still there... I will try and find out something... I also know several attorneys in the Lexington area... give me a day or so....... maybe I can find out something.... although I would think a short phone call to any Kentucky magistrate would suffice.... if it was not 8pm here, I would call now...... in fact.... wait just a minute... I'm gonna make the call........ back in 15 minutes...............

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 minutes later....

I called 4 numbers listed for magistrates in Kentucky with no answer at any... I then got the email addresses of 3 others and sent each an email asking this question. I will report on any answers and I will also call again in the morning.

I have a feeling one of you astute members will have already received the answer by then but I shall make the calls anyway.

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Bill Marx, Sr.
"FREE STATE BAIL BONDS"
"FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS"
DCJS: 99-176979
Cell: 434-294-0222

"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"

"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"

Ok.......... keep in mind that this all took place at about 10PM.... talked to 2 magistrates.... following statements:
"We do not set bonds in Kentucky, we are civil processors and as such we hold elected offices and deal with civil matters such as water rights, etc... criminal and civil law matters are handled by the court system and the judge system".

So I called the Fayette county sheriffs dept. and was put through to the bonding dept.... got a clerk who was part of the district court (that is open 24 hours) who files bonds when they are brought in.... this is the system and how it works presently..... :

A defendant is arrested, he is taken to the jail and a "Judge" who is on duty 24 hours, determines if he has a bond... he can set the bond as full or 10% and the defendant is then taken to the jail or the clerks office if he/she wants to bond and pays either the full amount plus a $25 fee or the 10% plus a $25 fee.

I ask the clerk who goes after the defendant if he fails to appear... answer, the sheriffs dept.... to which I said... "wow, I bet that ties up some of your resources..." and she said... "you better believe it.'

I then told her how Virginia works and how the commercial bail system and recovery is all privately operated although overshadowed by the DCJS.... how it costs the state nothing and we do all our own pickups and paperwork and although the state regulates our business, it basically uses none of the state funds for operation.

By this time, there were several other clerks listening to me on 'speaker' phone and one of them in the background actually said... cause I heard it very clearly.... "damn, we need "Dog" in our state... is that what you do Mr. Marx.... ?" I quickly explained to them that I was not a TV actor but a legal, licensed bondsman with over 10 years experience and not to confuse TV with real life... and they all agreed and laughed at "Dog" but I think I got them to look at us in a different light... hopefully. I do think I gave them something to think about... they all said it would greatly reduce their case load and allow them to worry about other more important things other than chasing a skip.... I agreed and they gave me the following number to call in the morning....

I will post this here for anyone to follow up on this call.... this is the bonding office located in the Fayette county sheriffs dept..... call this number and ask for the judge's office who sets the bonds and go from there.... I will make the call myself sometime tomorrow, between 8 and 4.... I recommend some of you do the same..........

Fayette county (Lexington) 859-246-2228, then 0 for the operator... just ask for the judge's office or who ever is in charge of setting the bonds and start asking questions like I do.................. I know many of you are a lot smarter and much more articulate than I... so go to it.

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Bill Marx, Sr.
"FREE STATE BAIL BONDS"
"FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS"
DCJS: 99-176979
Cell: 434-294-0222

"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"

"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"

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No one, including pretrial services, judges involved or clerks of the courts involved, have any information or know anything of a pending or upcoming or discussion of.......... re-instituting, re-evaluating, re-instating or in any manner changing the current laws in the state of Kentucky toward commercial bonding or regulated fugitive recovery.... period.

I called pre-trial services, district courts, sheriffs departments, AOC (Administrative Office of Courts) in Kentucky in Frankfort... and no one has any information on any changes being considered.

Now if anyone else has info related to this with more factual info available, lets hear it, but verify your facts cause according to everyone I spoke to this morning......... ain't nothin' happenin' unless it is very far under the radar... which is also a possibility, but that is above my pay-grade. No one at the levels I spoke to knows anything about changes.

Hope this helps.

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Bill Marx, Sr.
"FREE STATE BAIL BONDS"
"FREE STATE INVESTIGATIONS"
DCJS: 99-176979
Cell: 434-294-0222

"Endeavor to Persevere" "Lone Watie"

"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that , comes from bad judgment" "Will Rogers"

Great work, Bill

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Steve Faircloth
A Way Out Bail Bonds
(220) 204-9733 Cell
NSIN# SF0105
LIC. #704058

Thanks Bill, I guess it was just BS. The guy that told me that will probably read this. He claimed he went there and did a recovery soon after it opened up in July.

You can do recoveries legally in Kentucky, I have done them. You must go before a judge with your information and they will issue a warrant in Kentucky for the subject. You go with the Sheriff and they arrest him and either charge them with additional charges or the defendant decides to waive extradition and go with you. The latter part is fast and lose with the law as I have read it, but if the local LE says take the man, I am gone and feel that the subject was properly Magistrated by their standards

Scott

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R.E. "Scott" MacLean III

"Leaders are like Eagles, you never see them in a flock, but one at a time"

Chesapeake Group Investigations, Inc.
Chesapeake Bail Bonds
877-574-0500
301-392-1100 (fax)
301-392-1900 (Office)

And as a sidenote to this...

most people are not aware that if you have an out-of-state skip hiding here in California, per Penal Code 847.5, the bail agent or recovery person must appear before a magistrate or judge and obtain a signed court petition on behalf of the surety or bail agent allowing the re-arrest of the skip and transportaion to the original place of bail. This must all be done before they pick up their subject.

I am fully aware that the majority of recovery persons do not comply with this law but it is the law!!

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Randall Crew
Randall Crew & Associates
641-289-0136