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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Fri 02 Sep 2005 17:10 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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The Atlanta deal was a hoax..1 person started a rumour of running out, so people panicked. That has already been announced on the news.
We have 2 pipelines that run right through here, as well as tankers running from Birmingham. We have been assured by our city leaders that Huntsville is ok.
I have already offered to Houndog to transport gas to him if he needs it by meeting in Memphis, Tn.
I have a 6 cylinder p/u truck, and I can load it with 5 gallon jerry cans of gas and transport it anywhere I need to.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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rex
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 07:30 |
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Joined: Thu 25 Dec 2003 14:26 Posts: 430 Location: Tracy, California
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I caught a news segment where Geraldo Rivera and Shepherd Smith, who were reporting live, wherein they emotionally stated that people in their visual area were not getting what they needed, AND they both reported that people were not being permitted to leave!
After waiting several days for help, people may be too weak to make the trek, but is this right? How can people in complete crisis be kept from leaving?
Is there some other factor to this?
Rex
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DMARTZ
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 08:36 |
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Joined: Thu 29 Jul 2004 20:23 Posts: 1632 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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All this has hit me pretty hard as i have family that lived there. I also lived there for 20 years before i moved back here to be with my mother as my father passed away in 1998. I don't know who dropped the ball here but there was no reason for people to be dieing from no water or food. We can send billions of dollars everywhere else to buy countries friendship. There is no excuse that anyone could come up with to why this has happened and smooth things over. If we could not rally for this just think about how prepared we are if we had a biological or nuke attack.
Makes one stop and wonder. As a side note all my family is safe and here in Indiana. Everyone that knows me knows i shoot from the hip and i do not sugar- coat anything its all black & White. "WE DROPPED THE BALL ON ARE OWN PEOPLE"
_________________ The Rose Investigations LLC Collection Agency Security & Investigations Consultant Retired Private Investigator & Bail Enforcement NAM VET 1969- 1975 US Army (RECON) Office 260-220-3877 1-888-631-5520 Fax 260-456-6062
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 08:42 |
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Joined: Fri 30 Aug 2002 07:31 Posts: 1111 Location: St.Louis, MO
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My question is, I saw alot of looting going on and noticed a few people running with T.Vs..what the hell are they gonna do with a TV when there is no power???
_________________ After all is said and done, more is said than done.
-X- St. Louis, MO FRN#2 Member of The C.B.C
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DMARTZ
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 08:53 |
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Joined: Thu 29 Jul 2004 20:23 Posts: 1632 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Hola Tim,
I have to agree as to the looting of things other than food or water. It is sad that a disaster also brings out the crime element. I also know that stealing food or water is not right but if my family was starving and dehydrated i would most probably have done the same thing being put in this position. And i would hope God would forgive me for doing such.
_________________ The Rose Investigations LLC Collection Agency Security & Investigations Consultant Retired Private Investigator & Bail Enforcement NAM VET 1969- 1975 US Army (RECON) Office 260-220-3877 1-888-631-5520 Fax 260-456-6062
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EliteBailBoyz
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 09:30 |
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Here in Northern DE it is hard to find a gas station with gas. As of last night there were people getting into fights about who was going to get gas at the stations because they were running out so fast. RT 40 which is a main strip in delaware has a large number of gas stations closed due to this crisis!
I hope it works it self out soon this is crazy!
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Posted: Sat 03 Sep 2005 14:15 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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What is the greater crime ?..stealing food and water from a destroyed grocery store that will be covered by disaster relief funds or insurance or the crime of allowing people to thirst and starve to death ?
Any reasonable human being will do whatever it takes to survive under any circumstances. Examine ourselves for a moment...we put ourselves in harm's way 24/7; we are prepared to survive whatever may come of our hunting of our fellow mankind.
There have also been reports of armed gangs roving the streets, raping, pillaging, plundering as in medieval times. Additionally, they are also allegedly shooting at medevacs...thereby keeping them grounded or at bay from areas that need them.
I just had a visit from an HPD EOD officer and he related stories of New Orleans, PD officers walking off the job down there because of frustration. He stated that app 80% of New Orleans, PD is gone. He further stated that they were given impossible orders : 1) They could not shoot looters 2) They could not return fire if fired upon by armed citizens.
Another item he related is the fact of sharks are now inside New Orleans, swimming and feeding on all of the bodies, both human and animal.
It is almost unfathomable to think such death, devastation, and total chaos could occur here in the U.S.A.
_________________ River City Associates Decatur, Al. 35601
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rex
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Post subject: Posted: Sun 04 Sep 2005 14:57 |
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Joined: Thu 25 Dec 2003 14:26 Posts: 430 Location: Tracy, California
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All of this is incredible but nevertheless reality when things go so very bad.
Roving gangs, sharks, fights at gas pumps, the most powerful nation in modern history--if not ever--capable of getting help across vast stretches of ocean quickly, and people here in our own Country dying of starvation, dehydration, and left waiting for days while the lawless have at it?
I am beside myself.
Rex
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HoundDog
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Post subject: Posted: Mon 05 Sep 2005 12:54 |
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Joined: Sat 14 Aug 2004 16:44 Posts: 993
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I do not think anyone was questioning the people taking items for survival. I believe the looting and crimes being described probably refered to breaking into, appiance stores, jewelry stores, gun stores and the like. I do not think that a rolex watch, television set or an AK-47 would be described as for survival but more of the criminal element.
No one would question the taking of food and sustinance from destroyed stores for survival but, I would question the ones stealing firearms and other items so that they could rape, murder, hold hostage and destroy what little was left in the devastated cities.
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