MS-13

“When MS-13 showed up, they kicked down the door in and immediately started firing.”
FBI Spokesman Rene Salinas

Mara Salvatrucha “MS-13” is a violent street gang, according to law enforcement officials, and it has expanded from Southern California and Washington D.C. to Oregon, Alaska, Texas, Nevada, Utah, Oklahoma, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Canada and Mexico.

“They’re very ruthless in the way they, if somebody’s done something that’s not all of what they want done, it’s going to be dealt with violently.”
San Antonio ICE, Al Pẽna

MS-13 members are reportedly responsible for the murder of 3 federal agents, have a history of shooting at cops, and using anti-personnel hand grenade booby-traps to injure anyone coming too close to drug stashes, according to Orange County California DA investigator, Al Valdez.

Ranging in age from 11 to 40, according to Mr. Valdez, some MS-13 members may have military experience or experience as guerilla fighters arriving from the El Salvador civil war; moreover, MS-13 members who are in the U.S. illegally may fear deportation as a death sentence with a belief that death squads targeting criminals will kill them; consequently, MS-13 members who have been bailed out of jail may pose an undesirable set of risks when it comes to complying with the conditions of bail and any subsequent effort to return absconded bail skips to the proper authority, considering the possible MS-13 perception that escape means survival.

Notwithstanding normal rate structure for the atypical bail skip, it is my opinion that well established or otherwise proven bail enforcement persons should be afforded additional compensation for the added risk of tracking down and arresting MS-13 members, if a bail enforcement person even decides to take the contract. Conversely, hiring people new to the bail enforcement business on such cases is, in my opinion, unimaginable considering the prospective hazard of working such cases.

In my opinion, the bail bond community is, arguably, vying for business in a hotly contested race where taking a caller off the market wins priority over due diligence underwriting (sometimes thwarted by fraudulent ID), and this is often the case during the early morning, weekend hours when adequate checks cannot be done in any case; nevertheless, once a bail skip has been identified as a MS-13 member, this information should be passed on to those tasked with returning the skip to the proper authority; indeed, to save a buck by withholding this type of information is, in my opinion, unconscionable and suitable for allegations of reckless or depraved indifference, should some unfortunate incident occur as the direct or indirect result of withholding any information that would prevent any such incident on the grounds that the bail agent either knew or should have known of the consequences of intentional verbal inaction—in my opinion.

Proper preliminary investigation prior to taking action may shield bail enforcement persons from such problems, but, unfortunately, some things cannot be learned from a court or bail file and require street investigation where the bail enforcement persons may be exposed.

Research indicates that MS-13 members may be retaliatory when confronted with conventional bail enforcement activity; therefore, special attention should be afforded to observing standard personal security methods that are designed to limit on and off-duty exposure to potential resistance and/or reprisals.

In the worst-case scenario, bail bond company owners and bail enforcement agents, after notifying law enforcement of the threat, may need to hire professional personal protection personnel who should be made well aware of any and all information irrespective of the probable cost increase for higher risk protection details, in my opinion.

Since MS-13 members identify themselves as “Sureno” or “Southerner” and are believed to be actively warring with both Southern and Northern California street gangs, I am interested in any information concerning the impact of MS-13 on the bail, bail enforcement and executive/personal protection communities nationwide.

Sources for certain above-information are a matter of public record when not stated as opinion.

Sensitive information should be relayed via PM or E-mail for operational security reasons.

Rex

Rex makes some very good points here!

MS-13 is a group that is very serious! These guys make the Crips & Bloods look like Romper Room wanna-bes!

ALL MS-13 have very distinctive tats. I would strongly urge any recovery agent, that works closely with any bail agent or bond company, to have those bail agents document any and all tats of a Hispanic bondee. That way, you will know "who" you are going up against.

If anyone here happens to draw a MS-13 case, get ready to rumble. I have already done 2 and these are some BAD dudes.

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Hedrick & Associates INVESTIGATIVE GROUP
Nederland, TX
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(409) 284-1895
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"For every DEFENDANT that fails to appear in Court, there is a VICTIM seeking Justice"

Great post Rex, thanks for the info. Steve, can you be more specific on the tatoos?, this could prove valuable in the future. Thanks guys.

For in formation on gangs, check out http://www.nagia.org/.
You can download the National Gang Threat Assessment in PDF format.
74 pages broken down by region.
I will talk to some cop buddies and see if I can locate som tat info.

I am also trying to find the website that describes the MS-13 tats. I got hit with a very nasty trojan here and lost everything.

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Steve Hedrick
Hedrick & Associates INVESTIGATIVE GROUP
Nederland, TX
TX PI LIC #A-09665
(409) 284-1895
http://360.yahoo.com/ftachaser357
"For every DEFENDANT that fails to appear in Court, there is a VICTIM seeking Justice"

Wow these guys are mean! I hope the cops get them!
Hey while we are on the subject of gangs, can anyone tell me if it is true about the new gang initiation where they keep there headlights off on there car and when someone flashes there lights at them they go and kill you?
Thanks
Button

Thanks for the replies all.

Tattoos:

I'm scratching my head while deeply trying to recall where I saw the following described tattoos over the past five years or so:

"SALVADORIAN PRIDE"

"M"

"MS"

"13"

"SUR"

The problem is that Southern California Hispanic gangs also use "13" and identify themselves as Surenos.

It is also my understanding that MS-13 members are infiltrating through the Texas/Mexico border, and members could now be from other South Amercian countries such as Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico.

The problem for us is that they are reportedly involved in burglaries, auto theft rings, drugs, narcotic sales, home invasions, robbery and other types of crimes that we will most likely get as contracts while not being able to immediately see underlying causations such as MS-13 involvement.

The shootout mentioned in the original post reportedly happened when MS-13 did not know that FBI HRT was waiting.

Rex

reference: Al Valdez
Brandy Ralston

MS-13 tats:

Any kind of numerical configuration that = the "#13" for example the #'s 6 on one hand or shoulder and then the # 7 on the opposite one. Anything that = 13. Also denoted on the cars they drive or simply a jersey with the #13 on it...anytime you see anything totaling or denoting the # 13, you are most likely encountering 1 of these gang members.

There are currently app. 6,000 MS-13 members in and around the Va-D.C area alone.

They started in South and Latin Americas, migrated into LA; then moved on to NY, then slowly down south into Atlanta and Nashville. I recently was in thier territory earlier this year and was quickly educated to that fact by the local PD who are the most heavily armed officers I have ever seen outside of a swat unit.

Each officer is issued 4 personal weapons: 1 auto side arm, 1 wheel gun as a "boot gun", 1 fully auto m-16 rifle with 5-30 rd mags; and 1 moss berg riot shotgun. The precinct that I did my leo check in had a bullet ridden metal front door; even thier squad cars were bullet proof.

Needless to say when I arrived in polo shirt, casual shorts, and top siders, they were astounded and quickly advised me to "vest up". I got a quick education on this gang ASAP.

It was rumoured at one time that the initiation rights into this gang was to kill a cop. Now we know that isn't true because if ti was, there wouldn't be any cops left alive anywhere.

There have been several articles written on this gang. You can do all kinds of searches on them by simply typing in "ms-13 gangs" and see all the info on them.

Button: DO NOT PLAY WITH URBAN LEGENDS. IT IS NOT FUN AND GAMES OUT HERE.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

If you want the real time intel on MS-13 then I suggest you contact Scott McLean of N.A.B.E.A of Falls Church, Va.

He does fugitive apprehensions in the D.C area and has had numerous encounters with these gang members.

People, these guys are professional jungle warfare mercs types. Do not go after these people unless you are prior military or have someone on your team who is an experienced jungle fighter or resistance fighter. These people have no scruples, and they would rather die than be taken alive.

Take care and God Bless,

Ruffin.

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River City Associates
Decatur, Al. 35601

Heres a good story on the MS-13

http://www.altereddimensions.net/crime/MS13Gang.htm

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