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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 28 Mar 2012 10:51 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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PIs, licensed or "authorized" bail agents from other states can come to CA to pick up their skips in accordance with CA Penal Code section 847.5.
It is my understanding that the CA DOI has in fact issued bail agent licenses to some that have been convicted of felonies.
In one particular So Cal case, a fomer real estate peson was convicted of felony fraud and was still able to get a bail agent license.
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Phill Cross
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 28 Mar 2012 12:20 |
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Joined: Mon 19 Aug 2002 05:03 Posts: 1163 Location: Orange County, California, USA
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tsuggs wrote: In one particular So Cal case, a fomer real estate peson was convicted of felony fraud and was still able to get a bail agent license. NOTE: That isn't me! However, it appears I will need to take the required classes for PC1299...
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docmike
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 28 Mar 2012 14:34 |
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Joined: Sun 26 Nov 2006 04:28 Posts: 679 Location: San Jose
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I do know of a couplee agents in our area that have Felonies. They were not financial related as far as i know but the DOI gave them a greenlight.
_________________ Mike Norcal Bail Enforcement San Jose Ca. 360 237 1721 efax 408 402 2710 work cell DOI Bail Agent Lic 1844214 BSIS G1533544
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 28 Mar 2012 17:53 |
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For any CA people that will want get to "certified" I would suggest taking the bail agent prelicense course before 2013. After that it may increasse to 20 hours up from 12.
And of course it will cost more.
Then you can take the POST 832 at your leisure.
Once the "new" 1299 goes back in, you will not have to take the security guard powers of arrest course. That wil save you 40 hours of class time and mucho dollars.
BUT, if you want some proof of fireaem training you can still take the security guard course and do the exposed firearm portion also.
Then you have recognizable firearms training and a permit. Even though the permit is not good for bail recovery work!
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OrangeCountyBounty
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Wed 28 Mar 2012 20:06 |
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Joined: Fri 27 Mar 2009 21:26 Posts: 993 Location: Orange, CA
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For those interested, there is a separate firearms section of the 832 course. Its cheaper than the BSIS course and goes with the 832 you're already taking.
_________________ Tom Duprey Founding member, NABBI (Nat'l Assoc. of Bail Bond Inv.) Ca. Bail Agent Lic#1845795 Owner/Operator, Thomas Duprey Bail Bonds Owner/Operator, Orange County Bounty (714) 727-4689
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KARMA
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012 06:36 |
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Joined: Mon 14 Feb 2005 10:59 Posts: 7563 Location: Arkansas
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Phill, get in touch with Rex . . . . His Bailspeak Class should be what you are looking for. Tony ? would that be the one ?
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012 09:34 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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Yes, that is correct.
The Bailspeak course will satisfy one of the requirements. And as Tom pointed out the PC 832 POST course would be the other.
Most community colleges and some adult night schools teach the POST Course.
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SpanielPI
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012 09:41 |
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Joined: Thu 16 Jun 2005 16:04 Posts: 4598 Location: NE Alabama
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Tony,
I'm just curious, is there any provision "grandfathering" those individuals who were previously 1299/832 certified ?
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OrangeCountyBounty
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012 09:51 |
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Joined: Fri 27 Mar 2009 21:26 Posts: 993 Location: Orange, CA
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Ruffin,
I had a similar question regarding whether those with the 12-hour pre-license cert would be grandfathered in after the requirement changes to 20-hour. As far as a general grandfathering, I would think yes because, since the code specifically says the certs are for education purposes only and are not being used for their original intent (ie. law enforcement, security, or becoming a bondsman), they basically do not expire. The expiration dates on them are in regards to using them in their intended fields. Thusly, once you have documentation of EVER having completed them, I'd say you're good to go.
_________________ Tom Duprey Founding member, NABBI (Nat'l Assoc. of Bail Bond Inv.) Ca. Bail Agent Lic#1845795 Owner/Operator, Thomas Duprey Bail Bonds Owner/Operator, Orange County Bounty (714) 727-4689
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tsuggs
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Post subject: Re: CA New Proposed Bounty Hunter Rules and Regulations Posted: Thu 29 Mar 2012 11:07 |
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Joined: Thu 09 Mar 2006 14:51 Posts: 3344
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The problem we had on the committee is one side wanted no mention of grandfathering or requiring a date after which anyone wanting to be a CA BFRP, would have to take the classes.
Their assumption was that anyone that had previously qualified under the old 1299 would be grandfathered in. Anyone starting out when the bill took affect would have to qualify under the new law.
So, right now I don't know when those questions will be addressed.
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