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mrreynolds
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Post subject: Firearm License In NYC For CT BEA Posted: Wed 09 Apr 2008 18:19 |
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Joined: Wed 26 Mar 2008 03:30 Posts: 4 Location: New York, NY
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Hello I'm a resident of New York, NY & I intend on getting licensed as a BEA in CT. I'm familiar with the steps required to do this as I already possess a standard CT State Pistol Permit.
I'm aware of the additional firearms permit required for BEA in CT as well. My question is as a resident of NYC does anyone have any knowledge as to rather the NYPD would process a Pistol Permit for me in NYC which would legally allow me to carry a firearm from NYC to CT for work in CT as an BEA. Thank you.
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ajl424
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Post subject: Advice from CT Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 12:14 |
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Joined: Thu 05 Apr 2007 18:13 Posts: 16 Location: Manchester, CT
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I had looked into obtaining a work permit for NYC several years ago, but the process was cumbersome and seemed unlikely to come out in my favor. My understanding is that if you live in NYC it is very hard to obtain a license to carry, but you have a chance of getting a premises license that allows you to purchase a firearm and keep it unloaded in your home. You would then be able to legally transport from your home (unloaded) to CT were you could load and carry the firearm.
I would check with NYC police dept. They have a division dedicated to licenses.
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Steel
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Post subject: Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 12:23 |
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Joined: Mon 16 Apr 2007 21:57 Posts: 373 Location: New Jersey
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Experience: 3 - 5 years
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Be EXTREMELY careful in your wording and the way you approach NYPD. They DO NOT like BEA's/FRA's at all over there. And DO NOT flash any type/kind of badge or ANYTHING that says Agent, Special Agent, Detective, Etc. they will arrest you on the spot! Its in the BEA/FRA laws for NY! Walk on thin ice when your dealing with NYPD as a BEA or FRA, especially if they dont know you.
I personally DO NOT ever step foot in NY, never have, never will, as a FRA. Ive heard way too many crazy stories about Bounty Hunter Vs NYPD. They do not hesitate to arrest bounty hunters in that state at all.
_________________ Ricardo "STEEL" Zambujo (Southern New Jersey Region) S.O.R.A. Certified NJ Security Guard
Former Military Honorable / Medical (Retired for Life) U.S. Army / Fort Knox / 1-81 Armor / 19-D Cavalry Armored Reconnaissance Scout
Former Firefighter (New Jersey) Former Bounty Hunter (New Jersey) Georgia State Certified Peace Officer #O210022 Certification #PBCO20130210022 Former Georgia State Dept of Corrections - Bootcamp Officer Former Georgia County Sheriffs Office
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BondgirlCA
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Post subject: Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 15:00 |
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Joined: Thu 23 Nov 2006 18:44 Posts: 1311 Location: San Ramon, CA
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A) You can't carry firearms over state lines.
B) Good luck in CT. If you are not a resident, even getting a non resident permit is a major hassle. Residents have a better chance.
C) You need to contract with a CT BEA regardless of what you are doing in this state. You will be arrested on the spot.
Doesn't NYS require a city permit for the 5 borroughs s well as a state permit or am I losing my mind???
_________________ Kate 650.863.8470
" Yeah, I see ya, you ding dong..."
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ajl424
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Post subject: Firearms and State Lines Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 17:50 |
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Joined: Thu 05 Apr 2007 18:13 Posts: 16 Location: Manchester, CT
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It is not illegal to transport a firearm over state lines without a permit. The 1986 Gun Owners Protection act allows for transport of an unloaded firearm over state lines provided the ammunition and firearm are located in seperate (preferably) locked containers. According to this Federal statute you must mak a continuous journey from a location you may legally possess the firearm to a location you may legally possess the firearm. You may stop for gas, food, and depending on who interprets the statute lodging.
As I read the original post, the individual is interested in becoming a BEA in CT, and currently possess a non-res CT pistol permit. Obtaining a non-resident permit in CT is actually quite easy, though without a home state permit I would guess the poster either used to live in CT or had a pistol permit in another state when he recieved his CT nonresident pistol permit.
As to doing BEA work in CT without a license I agree with you that the State Police will arresst an out of state agent not properly licensed in CT.
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Yak
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Post subject: Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 18:23 |
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Joined: Sun 16 Jan 2005 11:40 Posts: 966 Location: New Jersey
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1986 Gun Owners Protection Act;
"Safe passage" provision
One of the law's provisions was that persons traveling from one state to another for a shooting sports event or any other lawful activity cannot be arrested for a firearms offense in a state that has strict gun control laws if the traveler is just passing through (short stops for food and gas) and the firearms and ammunition are securely locked, unloaded, and not immediately accessible.
An example of this would be that someone driving from Virginia to a competition in Vermont with a locked hard case containing an unloaded handgun and a box of ammunition in the trunk could not be prosecuted in New Jersey or New York City for illegal possession of a handgun provided that they did not stop in New Jersey or New York for an extended period of time.
With these considerations in mind, it is advisable for travelers with firearms to maintain a low profile while passing through any such states that have severe restrictions on gun ownership.
** This is a very grey area of the law. Would Fugitive Apprehension be considered a lawful activity ??, with shooting sports events being emphisized. This law is now 22 years old with the last paragraph warning you to stay low profile. What it will cost you for a lawyer to defend your right, might not be worth it in the long run. Just a thought.
_________________ Yak .... H.B.I.C. Riverside Enforcement Hackensack NJ 07601 Ph. (201) 538 - 2947 Fax (201) 342 - 5405
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SnoWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 19:56 |
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Joined: Tue 12 Dec 2006 17:33 Posts: 1611 Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
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But if anyone wants to volunteer to set the case file.....I'll take full advantage of it, if you win
(Notice I don't want to be the one to do it...I'm a chicken in that way)
_________________ ******************** Thomas SnoWolf FRN# 1999 GAPB 20120726 NSIS ST0707 http://www.rocksolidrg.com "The hero is not the man that acts without fear, He is the man that acts inspite of fear"
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mrreynolds
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Post subject: Posted: Thu 10 Apr 2008 21:11 |
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Joined: Wed 26 Mar 2008 03:30 Posts: 4 Location: New York, NY
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Thanks for the input. I just need to be able to legally possess my firearm in NYC where I live & transport it to CT when required. I actually have 6 non resident carry permits & a NYC Rifle & Shotgun Permit.
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