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Author:  speezack [ Wed 13 Nov 2013 20:40 ]
Post subject:  How can we compete with these actions??
Bonded a man several months ago... weapons charge, $4000 bond.

He FTA's on his second appearance, was not running, just didn't go to court... the locals picked him up and transported him back to jail.

I got wind of it and got my warrant and headed to the jail to come off the bond... guess what???

The magistrate PR'd him .... DO WHAT???????????????? PR'D AN FTA???

Not too long ago that was a NO bond charge and would be held till his court date.

How in the world can I maintain my work ethic, my compliance, my professionalism in the business when the powers that be... the courts, the magistrates and often the judges do things as obviously irresponsible as this... hard to tell me I am liable when they cut em loose on their own R....

This defendant had a rap sheet as long as my arm... yes, I did bond him but I had and do have a good amount of info and he is not a runner, just a bad boy that misses court... I can go get him but hey... LE picked him up... which I actually knew would happen but then he was PR'd... oh well, I guess I will just have to ride over to his 'hood' and bring him in.... just hope he doesn't pull that "weapon" he was charged with on me....

The point here is that we as bondsman, me and my daughter in particular, work awfully hard to comply with the rules and regulations and once again... it seems to be only applied to our side... very disheartening.

Comments welcome.... once again... my rule... "rule of thumb is... there is no rule of thumb"... :oops:
Author:  KARMA [ Wed 13 Nov 2013 22:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
Quote:
The magistrate PR'd him .... DO WHAT???????????????? PR'D AN FTA???


That should exonerate you of the bond . . . does it not ?

Here it would . . . . However I must admit, lately nothing surprises me
Author:  B Williams [ Thu 14 Nov 2013 05:23 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
What Luvonda said would work in NC. He was arrested for the FTA on your bond. That would work in NC not sure about VA.
Author:  BondgirlCA [ Thu 14 Nov 2013 06:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
Same here...you'd be off the bond
Author:  NYPD BLUE [ Thu 14 Nov 2013 07:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
Doesnt surprise me... Just recently had a $50,000 Drug Trafficking Charge... guy FTA'd .. gets arrested by Police.. and at bond hearing next morning.. gets ROR .. ! :shock: and was released.. !!!! Unreal ... Motion filed to get off estreature & that the Deft was in custody and BW was served by PD .. Judge at first didnt want to Discharge bond .. but after the lawyer stated that Judge SO n SO ROR'd the Deft at Bond Hearing .. the Bond was Discharged quicker than a blink of an eye..
Author:  OrangeCountyBounty [ Fri 15 Nov 2013 13:43 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
That's an easy exoneration here in California.
Author:  Mdbtyhtr [ Fri 15 Nov 2013 15:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
That would be an exoneration in MD as well. Hew was apprehended on the FTA and given a new bond, the ROR.

Scott
Author:  ncbondsman13 [ Wed 20 Nov 2013 00:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
speezack wrote:
Bonded a man several months ago... weapons charge, $4000 bond.

He FTA's on his second appearance, was not running, just didn't go to court... the locals picked him up and transported him back to jail.

That is crazy.... :shock: ...what are the judiciary rules I realize judges have a fair amount of descretion but surely there is something in place. At least when he FTA next time it won't be on your dime.. :lol:



I got wind of it and got my warrant and headed to the jail to come off the bond... guess what???

The magistrate PR'd him .... DO WHAT???????????????? PR'D AN FTA???

Not too long ago that was a NO bond charge and would be held till his court date.

How in the world can I maintain my work ethic, my compliance, my professionalism in the business when the powers that be... the courts, the magistrates and often the judges do things as obviously irresponsible as this... hard to tell me I am liable when they cut em loose on their own R....

This defendant had a rap sheet as long as my arm... yes, I did bond him but I had and do have a good amount of info and he is not a runner, just a bad boy that misses court... I can go get him but hey... LE picked him up... which I actually knew would happen but then he was PR'd... oh well, I guess I will just have to ride over to his 'hood' and bring him in.... just hope he doesn't pull that "weapon" he was charged with on me....

The point here is that we as bondsman, me and my daughter in particular, work awfully hard to comply with the rules and regulations and once again... it seems to be only applied to our side... very disheartening.

Comments welcome.... once again... my rule... "rule of thumb is... there is no rule of thumb"... :oops:
Author:  B Williams [ Wed 20 Nov 2013 08:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
Robert,

There is no need to re-arrest this person. Talk with your supervising agent. This one is a no brainer in NC and it's just a matter of filing a motion to get off the bond.

Bill
Author:  CGillliland [ Wed 18 Dec 2013 08:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: How can we compete with these actions??
I would talk to your lawyer, as I think there would even possibly be criminal or civil liability towards you if you were to go and try to rearrest the defendant once the original warrant had been served on your bond and the client was released on a new bond, -- the OR bond.

I would think that you no longer have the legal right to rearrest the Defendant. I would check this out before doing so, I would also gather up previous case law in your state and others pertaining to getting off the bond once he had a new bond set on the same case.

I am sure many of Us can recall cases to use as examples. However, it ultimately depends on what your state laws are and how they are worded. Maybe check with your state bail assn and the Insurance department or whoever the governing authority is for your bail bond licence.

I hope this helps, just food for thought.
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