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| Author: | uk_body_guard [ Thu 04 Sep 2008 20:53 ] |
| Post subject: | A quick question. |
Hey people, Brand new to the forum, im currently a Bodyguard in the good old UK and am looking to re locate to the states and am looking at becoming a BEA. Here in the UK unfortunatly we dont have them as we dont require a sureity for bail and the police are responsible for executing and carrying out all warrants. I have read through a couple of forums which leaves me with a couple of questions i'd be greatfull if anyone coupld help me out a bit. 1) Is BEA work hard to come by ? 2) Could i sustain a full time wage as a BEA ? 3) Is it relatively easy to find a mentor as such ? 4) Do the risks out weigh the job ? 5) Around how long does it take to get into the business and earning a wage ? Any help will be appreciated. Just for reassurance i'm not a wanna be dog thanks G.kirby |
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| Author: | Kathy [ Thu 04 Sep 2008 22:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
Mr. Kirby, I answered some of your questions in your intro post. Some of the others can be answered by just reading posts on here. This is not an easy business, any yes, it is dangerous. |
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| Author: | Mdbtyhtr [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 05:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
yes, no, no, yes, it depends on your abilities. Nobody can predict your closure rate of cases, some may be relatively easy, while other times you couldn't find a Dixie cup duct taped to your left toe. Bail Enforcement is a very lucrative second income. Most of the recovery people that I know have multiple revenue streams and recovery is just one facet of them. Getting work and a mentor that won't rip you off will be your largest obstacles. Getting a work Visa to enter the US and prove that there is a need for your unique abilities not being currently met by locals might be troublesome as well. Scott |
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| Author: | SnoWolf [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 10:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
No need for my answer as it only echos the previous posts. |
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| Author: | uk_body_guard [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 14:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
Hey Scott, Thanks for the feedback mate. Im thinking of possibly doing some armed security work as my first source and a BEA as a supplements after taking some advice. Any idea what the best way to find a decent mentor ? Gary |
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| Author: | SnoWolf [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 14:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
Ask around. Bondsmen in your area will know who has what kind of rep (If they will tell you anything). Then contact those. Expect to spend some time establishing relationships. It is just that simple however succeeding in these steps is not. There are many books out there that will lead you through all the steps you need to achieve to get started. |
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| Author: | SpanielPI [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 14:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
It's not that easy.... I am getting the feeling that you really don't have a full and complete understanding as to how this entire industry works here In America. The BEA industry as a whole is not organized, under any 1 federal agency, or even under any unilateral guidelines or regulations. What is legal for me to do in 1 state, may be illegal in another. So addressing your situation: 1) You desire to relocate to the USA 2) You desire to gain employment as a bail recovery agent 3) Based on your own comments, I am assuming you desire to legally possess, handle, and carry weapons. So to accomplish your objectives: 1) Obviously you have to get through all of the immigration obstacles 2) You have to choose where you wish to live/work. 3) You have to obtain a work visa 4) You may have to secure various licenses...driver's, ccw, pi, business, etc. Some states require you to be a U.S. Citizen before being able to obtain these licenses. 5) You may be required, depending on your state, to be certified in tools of the trade...weapons, batons, handcuffing, chemical agents, etc. Next, you would need BEA training. Some states this is mandatory. Then, you seek out a mentor and recieve OJT-on the job training, and take it from there. I hope this helps some. |
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| Author: | SnoWolf [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 14:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
Sorry... I was commenting on just the "mentorship" part. RWB is correct on all the other aspects, when you speak of getting started in the industry, as a whole. |
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| Author: | uk_body_guard [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 15:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
RWB yeah its alot of help mate. Well the desire to re-locate and gain employment as a BEA is certainly there, Yeah i dont mind about handling, possess and use any form of weapon. I think my best option is going to be to see if i can find someone who is prepared to have me ride along with them for a week to see exactly how the business and operatives work (and obviously have to play tea boy for a week so to speak). Im sure this will be a good indication as to wether it would work for me and they get a free worker for a week. At least if i can do this then i will be able to get a real insight into the industry and see if it suits me. The only hurdle now is finding someone to have me ride along for a week lol. thanks alot for your help mate its really appreciated Gary |
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| Author: | SpanielPI [ Fri 05 Sep 2008 15:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A quick question. |
Regarding participating in a ride along program: You can certainly do this, but the bea would be smart to require you to sign waivers, just as if it were a leo program to minimize thier liability and that of thier clients on whose cases you would be observing. Additionally, again depending on whcih state you are in, you may not even be allowed to play the "tea boy" role...any act on your part to obtain intel, prepare cases, make phone calls etc could be legally construed as an active part in an on going fugitive investigation. You can't just simply show up in Los Angeles, NYC, Atlanta, and just start bounty hunting...it's not that simple. For example, you could come here to my state and legally perform certain duties. However, you could not do the same in states that have mandatory licensing requirements. If you are considering an exploratory trip for a week or so, then I would suggest you contact someone like Rex Venatar, Scott Harrell, Scott Maclean, etc. Perhaps spending 2-3 days with each person in different parts of the country to get a broader spectrum of the industry a a whole. |
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