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Author:  L.A.W. [ Tue 10 May 2005 19:14 ]
Post subject:  QUESTION
Why is it Chapman is never-ever shown going into the Honolulu Police Department? I know why... does anyone else know why?

He was displayed on TV saying he pities "bounty hunters" who have firearms because when he and his gang met with physical resistance he said it was a situation where 'lethal force' would have been justified. Comments such as that on national television can certainly spark Legislators into thinking none of us ever need to have a firearm in the pursuit of our duties. That guy and his posse are just believable! The negativisms grow and grow like a dark and damp mold.
Author:  rex [ Tue 10 May 2005 20:12 ]
Post subject:  No
L.A.W.,

No I don't know why, but it is agreeable that you're back posting :wink: .

Rex
Author:  L.A.W. [ Wed 11 May 2005 05:16 ]
Post subject: 
I never left. I merely don't participate in topics that go nowhere nor do I have the patience to explain matters to new people. I post when there are "major wrongs" being committed that effect us all.
Author:  rex [ Wed 11 May 2005 08:34 ]
Post subject:  Very Well
L.A.W.,

I appreciate your position.

I caught the episode you were referencing shortly after your post.

I found the initial contact and troubled arrest rather standard, but the post-arrest activity seemed very curious to me.

Succintly put, it is my opinion that Mrs. Chapman is clearly a liability in terms of safety in that she insists on provoking and otherwise engaging people in unproductive verbal arguments rather than exfiltrating as soon as is possible.

Mrs. Chapman's antics are not the way to conduct arrest operations in my opinion, and certain segments of their show could certainly be used for training purposes, in my opinion.

Equally curious, and correct me if my perception is off, is the seemingly high number of bail skips who meander around the open streets where they are picked up.

I've never worked in that area, but, in my area, I can't recall ever having such a high number of cases--even in-house cases--closed by such great luck.

It is worth mentioning that I understand that the show is edited, and this process may take away from the larger picture.

I'm not suggesting that all of Mr. Chapman's closed cases ended in a drive-by sort of pick up, but one has to wonder about the apparent frequency of so many.

Again, these are just my observations and should in now way refelect negatively upon the Chapmans without counterpoints being raised by the Chapman's themselves.

Rex
Author:  Agent Wayne Slaven [ Wed 11 May 2005 10:28 ]
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Everybody seems to over look the fact that Mr. Chapman is a convicted felon and couldn't carry a gun if he wanted to. His wife causes more troble than she's worth with her mouth. as far as going into the jail i figured since he was a Ex-felon he couldn't file the arrest.

IF i'm worng i applogize LAW
Author:  ChuckJ [ Wed 11 May 2005 12:12 ]
Post subject:  Chapman
I know "DOG" created a scene outside Honolulu PD last year when he began screaming at some BEA's from US Pacific Recovery who were also there surrendering a prisoner.

I don't know if this is why he doesn't go in or if Honolulu PD decided they didn't want him in there for other reasons.
Author:  HGUNNER [ Wed 11 May 2005 13:29 ]
Post subject:  du-du
WAYNE IS RIGHT MOST LOCK UPS DO NOT ALLOW EX FELONS TO ENTER A SECURE AREA----THAT IS WHY DU-DU CAN NOT ENTER THE LOCK UP AREA--AS FAR AS BETH OR WHATEVER NAME SHE USES REMEMBER THIS IS FOR TV AND TV NEEDS CONFLICT TO GET RATINGS-THE REAL BEA ARRESTS(MOST OF THEM ANYWAY)ARE ABOUT AS EXCITING AS WATCHING PAINT DRY-ALSO IF YOU LISTEN CAREFULLY YOU WILL HEAR MANY OF HIS ARRESTS ARE REVOCATIONS BECAUSE THE SUBJECT DID NOT CHECK IN WITH DA-KINE OFFICE AS REQUIRED(DAILY)
AS FAR AS PROCEDURES AND TACTICS DU-DUS ARE NON EXSISTANT NO AGENT PROTECTION-RELITIVES AND FRIENDS HAVE ACCESS TO SKIP NO ROOM SEARCHES FOR WEAPONS AND I CAN GO ON FOR HOURS-I USE HIS SHOWS AS A EXAMPLE OF HOW NOT TO GET IT DONE AND HOW TO ENDANGER YOUR CREW

IF BETH WAS ONE OF MY PEOPLE I WOULD LET HER ENTER THE HOUSE AND IN APPROX 15 MINUTES EVERYBODY WOULD EXIST AND GIVE UP-I KNOW WE WOULD BE SUED FOR CRUEL PUNISHMENT---I HAVE OFFERED FREE TRAINING TO HIS GROUP ON ALL THE WEBSITES HE VISITS AND HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM
Author:  rex [ Wed 11 May 2005 13:31 ]
Post subject:  Good Point
Wayne,

You raise a good point.

A convicted felon may not enter most jail facilities absent permission from a given facility commander here.

Is this frequently encountered California jail policy relevant as matters pertain to Mr. Chapman not being seen entering into PD facility?

Incidental but still relevant, I'm waiting for a bail client, who has watched Mr. Chapman's show, to uneccesarily run when offered a reinstatement letter after missing court.

Rex
Author:  L.A.W. [ Wed 11 May 2005 16:30 ]
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Chapman cannot go into the Honolulu PD because the Chief and most other superior officers cannot stand him. I got this info straight from a high-ranking officer at HPD last year; the same officer who stated he wished A&E would air some of the 'run ins' (his words) they've had with the Chapmans. As regards the woman he calls his wife (no one ever found proof they are married)... the one who wears the way-too-short-for her-immense-size Halloween costumes which are comparable to wrapping a piano in a hankerchief... she, too, cannot go into HPD without an escort and only for personal business not bail related. I wonder which is larger... her mouth or her bust and I don't give a sweet or sour damn who doesn't like my 'observations' and 'comments'. I call it as I see it without the burden of having to adhere to being 'politically' or 'socially' correct. The truth is the truth. Period.

Ladies and gentlemen... Lance has now left the building!
Author:  HoundDog [ Thu 12 May 2005 11:29 ]
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What Lance said is fact! We have an individual that works for us that is just a few doors away from their office and they communicated exactly what Lance just said. They absolutely can not stand the site of him or his common law or legal wife.

A Captain fo 5-0 told my partner that as soon as the A&E fiasco wears off and they stop filming him he will be sent back to Mexico to answer the charges. He (The Captain) said that they could not do it now because A&E would have their high priced lawyers on them before they could place him on a flight out of the Islands. And he also said that the Warrants have come through to send him back.
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