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Author:  Vaughn [ Wed 23 Feb 2005 16:26 ]
Post subject:  CCW and FRA'S
I'm just a few months out of becoming an FRA in the wonerfully small state of Delaware. But I want to get my CCW for when I'm not on duty. Does anyone have any knowledge of wheither being an FRA will help or hurt my chances. Should I put that I'm looking to get a CCW for protect from retaliation from fugitives? Or just treat it as though I'm a normal joe. Any help would be great. Thanks all...stay safe!

~~Vaughn
Author:  ChuckJ [ Wed 23 Feb 2005 22:34 ]
Post subject:  CCW
Since were not sworn Law Enforcement we usually are given no more consideration than any other private citizen when it comes to getting a CCW, I live in PA which is a shall issue state so it doesn't matter if your FBI or a janitor as long as you don't have any disqualifying issues you will be issued a CCW.
Author:  HoundDog [ Thu 24 Feb 2005 11:20 ]
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I would probably leave the fact out that you are a BEA. You do not need to bring anymore attention to yourself than wanted. Of course this is just my opinion.
Author:  DMARTZ [ Thu 24 Feb 2005 13:35 ]
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Roberts post was the best advice you could have gotten from anyone.
Author:  EliteBailBoyz [ Mon 06 Jun 2005 18:42 ]
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In Delaware a CCDW is for a normal civilian. The correct answer for why you want your license to carry is "To protect your person and property" Serveral others as well as myself have used this and it works everytime!

Delaware is pretty strict on issuing permits. There is a lot of paper work involved!

You can also contact the DSP detective licensing division for a list of people who teach BEA's to carry. You will then be given a work permit to carry your weapon unconcealed while working! This is totally seperate from you CCDW!

If you have any other questions about your carry permits I would refer you to www.packing.org there is plenty of great information on how to apply and the rules and regs of carrying in each state!

Good Luck!

Carl Pace
Elite Fugitive Recovery
302-356-0434
Author:  rex [ Thu 23 Jun 2005 06:53 ]
Post subject:  CCW
Here in the 'may issue' PRC, it is very difficult to obtain a permit.

I've heard unconfirmed tales of San Francisco authorities confiscating weapons from people who have permits.

Also, I would not suggest that a person--with a permit--carry concealed while making or trying to make a bail arrest.

First, it is not unheard of for LE to ask for a permit and then call the issuing agency for a "heads up." This could lead to a revocation since the issuing agency probably didn't know that the permit was being used for employment purposes.

Second, since bail arrests are typically up close and personal, I would suggest using a retention holster versus the more common and less secure concealable holsters. The best retention holsters do not make for good concealable rigs.

While the PRC has restrictive CCW laws, BEAs do have open carry options and this is conducive to wearing retention rigs.

Rex
Author:  EliteBailBoyz [ Fri 24 Jun 2005 14:20 ]
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The state of Delaware has an "Open Carry" Law. This pretty much states if you are a good citizen with no felonies and have the right to own a gun you can carry it unconcealed. (This is not a smart idea) The police will still get you for disrupting the peace or something of the sort.


The Delaware State Police Detective Licensing Division has made it very clear that if you do have a CCDW permit in the state of DE, you may carry while doing BEA work, however it must remain concealed.

If you want to carry in DE. the best thing to do is get your CCDW & apply for a work permit with the DSP Detective Licensing Division so that way you are covered either way you carry concealed or unconcealed.
Author:  rex [ Fri 24 Jun 2005 15:24 ]
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Mr. Pace,

I do believe that our separate posts support the reality of how each AO must be given consideration in that blanket statements should be viewed as construstive and not absolute.

Many Thanks,

Rex
Author:  EliteBailBoyz [ Fri 24 Jun 2005 18:30 ]
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I agree with you 100% Rex.

My statements are from my personal experiances and what has worked for me.

The comments that I have posted in regard to information recieved from DSP can be verified by contacting them directly.
Author:  SpanielPI [ Sat 25 Jun 2005 09:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: open-carry vs concealed
This is a generalized opinion, derived from having just completed the Tn. State BEA taught by the following individuals:

Joe Stiles (TAPBA), Scott Olson (NIBE), Scott MacLean (NABEA), and Scott Harrell (Compass Point Investigations).

This issue arose during this seminar, as it always does and probably always will. An immediate question from this esteemed panel: Why would you want to open-carry ? They expanded further:

1) It is not a good idea, whether or not you are legal to do so, to open-carry at any time. It was further explained that even during a routine interview of witnesses, 3rd parties, etc. that if you ever touched your weapon, like resting your hand on it as many former cops are still in the habit of doing, you may have possibly just committed a crime of an aggressive nature, i.e. an act of aggression.

2) The very presence and visibility of a weapon puts people ill at ease and draws unwanted attention to yourself.

3) People may also, incorrectly, mistake you for a LEO which may lead to impersonation charges.

There are other reasons for not displaying a weapon publicly. It has the tendency to create more problems and liability than it solves.


Again this is just an opinion. :D
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