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| Author: | Soull01 [ Mon 08 Nov 2004 14:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Question |
Hey everyone! I am new to the forum and just had a few questions. Im hearing alot about how no one likes dog, and how in many states felones cannot work in fugitive recovery etc.. If you do not mind me asking, do all of you (those working as recovers) dislike felons working in the trade? Why is dog hated so much? Thanks |
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| Author: | HoundDog [ Mon 08 Nov 2004 15:15 ] |
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First off a lot of states will not allow felons to do recovery work including my state of Arkansas. If a felon tries to do recovery work here they will charged with another felony. You have to be a licensed Private Investigator, Licensed Bail Bondsman or a Certified Police Officer to do recovery work here and with a felony conviction you cannot obtain any of these credentials. As far as people disliking "Dog" they will have to answer that question. I will tell you what I hear some say. Some are disliking him because of the un-professional way he goes about his business, also being a fugitive himself from Mexico leaves a sour note in some mouths, they would like to know what makes him any better than the fugitives he captures being a fugitive himself. I hope this is a start in answering some of your questions and, I am sure you will hear from others who have very strong opinions on his ethics, morals and professionalism. Take Care |
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| Author: | rex [ Tue 09 Nov 2004 09:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Strong Language |
"Hate" is a strong word, and I would not characterize the general consensus regarding Mr. Chapman as hate laced. When a major blunder is alleged to have been committed by a private citizen working as a bail enforcement agent, the media is historically very quick to jump on the story--nation wide--and throw out blurbs when all the facts are not in. This reality tends to cause a ripple effect in terms of enacting new legislation that may or may not be conducive to existing BEAs or even justified. Mr. Chapman has--lucky for us--become a media darling. If this wasn't the case, you can rest assured that his illegal move to work a California case and illegal cross-border operation to arrest Luster would have formed a catalyst for federal legislation if not outright banning of the trade. The media can flip in an instant, and if Mr. Chapman makes a mistake then the aforementioned ripple effect may very well be realized. Arguably, it was that Arizona incident that pushed the trade into the state-by-state legislation era where specific laws included no felons allowed. By the way--please correct me if I'm mistaken--I saw a preview of the next episode of Mr. Chapman's show, and I half-heard that he was going home for something. If he does BE work in Colorado then he will be committing a violation of that state's BE laws--I believe. I don't think that there is "hate" for Mr. Chapman, but acting in a way that taints the trade will be call for strong discontentment. Rex |
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| Author: | L.A.W. [ Tue 09 Nov 2004 10:30 ] |
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Chapman can legally hunt in Colorado because the state has a 15 year window that allows felons to conduct bail enforcement activities provided the last conviction is at least 15 years old. I checked that out long ago. The Colorado statute is 12-7-105.5 Bail Recovery Services - Requirements. The 15 year window is listed under paragraph 4. |
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| Author: | rex [ Tue 09 Nov 2004 15:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Okay Then |
And there you have it. Thanks to L.A.W. for clarifying whether or not Mr. Chapman could lawfully work in Colorado. Rex |
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| Author: | HGUNNER [ Sat 13 Nov 2004 08:24 ] |
| Post subject: | COLORADO |
COLORADO STATE LAW ALSO SPECIFIES TO DO BEA YOU NEED TO HAVE TAKEN A ACCEPTED 16 HOUR BEA COURSE-IF DOGGIE HAS NOT HE IS IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW-I ALSO BELIEVE IT IS UP TO THE BONDSMEN TO CHECK HIS CRADENTIALS-THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIM |
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