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Author:  TomAlciere [ Thu 06 Oct 2011 14:11 ]
Post subject:  What to tell them
You travel a long way to get the defendant, and in transporting, you hear the defendant muttering about the suspected snitch that got him busted in the first place, you asshole bounty hunters, etc.

You CAN talk sense to some of them, but to do so, you have to make sense. Telling him it's all his fault makes no sense if it's not his fault.

Remind them that the suspected snitch might not even be the snitch, but COPS seized him, handcuffed him, forced him into a vehicle and hauled him off to jail. It's the fault of COPS.

You're just carrying out your end of a deal he made. Ain't the bail bondsman's fault the guy got arrested. They just put up the money and they want their money back. He agreed that you could bring him back. Tell him to blame cops. If it wasn't for bounty hunters, the bond never would have been made.

If he mutters that if he ever finds that cop... Then he's starting to make sense. Ask him why he has to punish the same exact cop. At the Battle of Trenton, George Washington and his men attacked the enemy while the enemy was just sleeping off their Christmas hangovers. None of Washington's men went looking for the same exact Redcoat that wounded him in a previous battle.

The War on Drugs is the government and its cops versus liberty. If he supports liberty, he should view all cops as enemy officers. If a bunch of fat, stupid, ugly old ladies that watch soap operas, play bingo, read tabloids and don't know the metric system keep waddling off to the polls, re-electing candidates who use cops as weapons of unprovoked violence against innocent meth dealers, to try to intimidate the innocent meth dealers into giving up their right to sell methamphetamine, then the fat, stupid, ugly old ladies have only themselves to blame if they wake up one morning with no police protection. They deserve to have their weapon taken away from them.

This kind of talk could save the lives of innocent suspected snitches and might even save your life by deflecting the anger away from you. He may go to prison and share this wisdom with cellmates, too, further deflecting anger and violence away from the people who don't deserve it.
Author:  Mdbtyhtr [ Thu 06 Oct 2011 16:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Tom
Your diatribes border on the insane. Police Officers do not make the laws, they just enforce them. We do not talk to our bail skips and we don't roll over on snitches, so discussing who gave them up is out of the question. Lastly, our personal freedoms are just that, and when in pursuit of your personal freedoms, you expose others against their will to danger, that is when society comes down on you. Clearly, your use of drugs has convinced you that you are on a par with Dr. Timothy Leary, but you couldn't hold his bong water. You sir are an idiot, and your constant ramblings about innocent drug dealers is criminal. I have been in many houses that have neglected children, due to the drugged out parent(s) who are more interested in sucking on that glass dick than taking care of their families. Meth houses are a Class A Hazmat due to the potential hazards they cause everyone that comes into contact with them, law enforcement, fire fighters, EMT's and the families that live in the rest of the building, all against their will. The drug addicts that shop lift to support their habits or car jack or assault people, all infringe on the rights of the rest of us. Sympathy? You get no quarter from me and I would like to see you banned so that we don't have to witness your spewing of ignorance. Go away and die, and take your drug dealers with you.

Scott
Author:  TomAlciere [ Thu 06 Oct 2011 17:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Tom
Your diatribes border on the insane.


No, you just don't like the truth.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Police Officers do not make the laws, they just enforce them.


But they do enforce them, which they have absolutely no right to do.

Voluntary employment, like voluntary intoxication, is no excuse. Employment contracts between a government and its cops cannot entitle the latter to violate the inherent natural rights of nonsignatory third parties.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
We do not talk to our bail skips and we don't roll over on snitches, so discussing who gave them up is out of the question.


I didn't say you'd discuss who gave them up. I was talking about the snitches that got them busted in the first place.


Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Lastly, our personal freedoms are just that, and when in pursuit of your personal freedoms, you expose others against their will to danger, that is when society comes down on you.


And even when they do not expose anybody to any danger, such as when they simply use the drugs to get stoned.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Clearly, your use of drugs has convinced you that you are on a par with Dr. Timothy Leary, but you couldn't hold his bong water.


Unable to rebut what I said, you make up shit about me. Logic: If you cannot discredit the Pythagorean Theorem with good, sound, logical reasoning, you don't discredit it by discrediting Pythagoras.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
You sir are an idiot, and your constant ramblings about innocent drug dealers is criminal.


What law am I breaking by rambling about innocent drug dealers?


Mdbtyhtr wrote:
I have been in many houses that have neglected children, due to the drugged out parent(s) who are more interested in sucking on that glass dick than taking care of their families.


Then bust THOSE ones for child neglect. Each person is a separate individual and a separate transaction, guilty only of his or her own crimes.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Meth houses are a Class A Hazmat due to the potential hazards they cause everyone that comes into contact with them, law enforcement, fire fighters, EMT's and the families that live in the rest of the building, all against their will.


When drugs are legal, they'll buy meth pills at the pharmacy.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
The drug addicts that shop lift to support their habits or car jack or assault people, all infringe on the rights of the rest of us.


Then bust the carjacker for carjacking, the shoplifter for shoplifting, the assailant for assault etc. Each person is a separate individual and a separate transaction, guilty only of his or her own crimes and not the crimes of other crackheads.

Mdbtyhtr wrote:
Sympathy? You get no quarter from me and I would like to see you banned so that we don't have to witness your spewing of ignorance. Go away and die, and take your drug dealers with you.

Scott


You want me banned so you won't have to bother with inconvenient truths. Daniel Webster said, "There is nothing so powerful as truth."
Author:  -X- [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 08:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Quote:
But they do enforce them, which they have absolutely no right to do.


Since when do police officers have no right to enforce the law??? What the hell are they there for then???
Author:  SpanielPI [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 09:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Why is anyone still entertaining this guy ? The more anyone engages him, the more validated he becomes. Best thing any of us can do is ignore him.
Author:  rfrielly [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 09:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
As a Medic/Firefighter I seen the stuff Scott has talked about. Not only the meth labs with innocent children present but drug overdosed parents, murder parents/kids etc., and all this puts the public in general at risk. I have gone to many scenes and have had to wait for HAZMAT to clear the scene and I prayed that it didnt blow up while my friends tried to contain the scene. I have seen children overdose on their parents drugs. You sir are a idiot! PERIOD I have read your ramblings and I think you are off your rocker. You offer NO logic in any of your writings. My suggestion to you sir if you got nothing to say with merit then dont say it!
Author:  Joey_R [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 09:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Tom,

I am probably the newest in these forms, but definitly not a rookie. I will say this: 1st off, if your willing to put anyone else in danger for your captures and actions, scared that the fugitive will hunt you down afterwards, you my friend are a coward. Second, when we get into this buisness everyone is aware of what dangers they may encounter. Some cops might be the scum of the earth but not all are the same, just as some bounty hunters are worse than trash, and others are more proffesional than lawyers. If your afraid of what a fugitive is ranting about mabey you shouldn't be in this buisness. If you treat every fugitive with the respect the he deserves, and conduct yourself in a professional matter, you won't be finding yourself in a bad situation. If this were not true "In Theory" many of our LEO's would be deminishing due to fugitive retaliaition. Please think before you speak sir. I'm not trying to be direspectful, but finding how to blame others for your actions is very petty. Be blessed sir.
Author:  rfrielly [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 09:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
And for the record I love to push NARCAN!!!!!
Author:  KARMA [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 15:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
rfrielly, what is . . . . NARCAN ?
Author:  Mdbtyhtr [ Fri 07 Oct 2011 15:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: What to tell them
Luvonda, it takes the druggies high away, come down to earth and quickly!

Scott
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