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Author:  RMILL78 [ Thu 25 Aug 2005 15:03 ]
Post subject:  hound dog/ regrding pi licensing
i'm looking into getting licensed out of state, and then have my license transferred to an arkansas license.

do you see any major problem with this?

i have a friend who is a pi here in arkansas, and she got her pi license in oklahoma and had it transferred, she said it wasnt diffucult to do.

she also said its way cheaper to get it in oklahoma.
Author:  HoundDog [ Thu 25 Aug 2005 18:35 ]
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Rick this is kinda tricky to answer but, I will give you my opinion.

I am not sure about how you do or handle things in life and work and such. To me I have never asked for or taken the easy way out when it came to my training and licensing. I did everything that was required and complied with those rules without taking any shortcuts or easy way outs. I went through the 9 months of classes that was required at the time to obtain my P.I. License and also paid the full amount which was around $1,800.00. I learned more than you can imagine from my instructor who is a former DEA Agent of 10 years before retiring due to being shot on the job in Ft. Smith, Ar. He aslo spent 10 years in the Arkansas State Crime Lab and with all of his experience I managed to absorb some of it which has been invaluable to me. You can not trade any of that by going the easy way out and expect to be offering your clients of the future a well trained and schooled Private Investigator.

To answer your question if I see any major problems with this, Yes I do. Take the right way, then you can truely say that you have earned it. Rick almost everyone here knows what has happened to me this summer with my business. I could have taken the easy way out and distanced myself from my former business partner, instead knowing that it was going to destroy my business I, stood tall and did the right thing and, had him arrested and exposed, leaving me trying to rebuild a company that has been tarnished because of its asociation with this individual.
Author:  RMILL78 [ Thu 25 Aug 2005 19:16 ]
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Thanks you for the honest answer/opinion.

To be completely honest, I'm really poor, i am only in the third month of working for the company, i'm working for now, i dont have 1800-2000 dollars to get my license, i just cant shell out that amount.

is an oklahoma pi license really differant than getting and Arkansas license?, i'm not trying to be an ass by any means saying that, i really dont know. and cant seem to really get any stright answers ft this subject, excpet from you.

tulsa is an hour from here, little rock 2 and a half, geographically it makes sense to me, i dont know, maybe i'm just going about this the wrong way.

i'll call you, when i get a free minute and talk more about this.

thanks again, Rick.
Author:  rex [ Fri 26 Aug 2005 08:29 ]
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Robert,

Your candid statements are to be wholly commended as genuine and well worth considerable respect.

Licensed private investigators in my AO, by and large, are very respected by LE personnel and the public at large. This may come from the fact that California PI licenses are only issued to people with 6,000 hours of verifiable experience in investigations over three years.

Also, one cannot simply study and pass the test. You either know investigations or you don't.

Rex
Author:  jeffstewartfi [ Sun 28 Aug 2005 05:27 ]
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I wish I can say the same about Private Investigators here in Vermont. All you need is two years Military, Police, Security of under another Investigator to get one from here. I can see police and military! But, Security???
Author:  DMARTZ [ Sun 28 Aug 2005 09:08 ]
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As i have stated before an Indiana PI Agency license is a dual license you may operate a private detective agency and/or a security company with the one license. Indiana law had a loophole in it that also said an applicant could apply for a license with 4000 hrs as a security person, In August of 2004 this law was amended to read that one has to have been a full time manager or administrator for a licensed private security contractor agency or as a manager or administrator of a proprietary security force of twenty(20) or a lesser number with equivalent experience as determined by the board. What this means is a security guard my not receive a PI license as just being employed as a security guard.
Indiana: 862 IAC 1-1-3
Author:  thebishopp [ Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:23 ]
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A good move on Indiana's part I believe.
Author:  EliteBailBoyz [ Sun 28 Aug 2005 14:30 ]
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Never being in the PI field.... What is the deal with the international PI classes that claim to give you international PI powers?
Author:  DMARTZ [ Mon 29 Aug 2005 08:33 ]
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I have been in this business a long time and i have never heard of International PI powers. We have contacts overseas we can use if the need comes around. I would like to give people my opinion on schools as sometimes people are confused, even though one may enroll in schools for Bail Enforcement, Private Investigations etc. Your State still may not issue you a license to do business in one of these professions solely on you taking a course and getting a certificate of completion from the school. In many states there are only one or two ways you can get a license if you don't meet these requirements you will not be licensed period. So always make sure you meet your states licensing requirements before you shell out a bunch of money to any school.
I do know that there are some very fine schools out there and i certainly do not discredit them, as knowledge is the best tool you can have in any business of this type.
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